In a message dated 12/1/2005 5:30:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, avbsantos@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: If that's not an OEM distro MS should give you "support" according to the EULA. I kind of have a hunch it is due to one of the patches that MS came out with earlier.... did see where it affected some security issues on some computers...... and am going to hit MS about it based on that.... might be the trick as it just popped up after I did the last bunch of patches... I keep mine up to date soon as they come out and that is when the problems began.... just after that .... so.... next step will be to MS and see what they have to say....... chuck.... in ok