Joe, Thanks for the advise and notice of what using xcopy entails. When Armando mention xcopy32.exe, I looked for the file in find and saw I had it on my computer. Then I looked and all the links you and the others had listed referring to this tools and saw the one Armando said it was his favorite that gave the simple dos type command to do a copy and I thought: maybe this is how I could do a quick backup. The one thing I have learned about computers is that there are so many things that a novice doesn't realize that can cause problems. So I thought I had better ask before going too far. At an earlier date Chuck had mentioned the XXcopy's were so great, but at that time I did not have a deep enough understand to feel confident to try using them. I was thinking maybe Xcopy32 was a simplified version. Unfortunately, it appears I will have to do some more learning before I give any to the Xcopy's a try. Thanks once again for keeping me out of trouble. I sure have an easy time finding it!!! BRIAN *************** Brian, there's more to learn! The XXCopy application that I referred to is not deep down in your machine. XXCopy is a third party app written because XCopy, the one down in the bowels of your machine, was prone to develop errors, especially in preserving LFN (long file names). Try to imagine copying everything on your HDD to another media and then discovering that all the file names had been reduced to DOS format (8.3 characters). IExplorer.exe to open your browser becomes iexplo~1.exe. XXCopy has a whole website dedicated to it's use.. XXCOPY, a Versatile File Management Utility --- Boldly Extended Xcopy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.xxcopy.com/ I would suggest you explore there before attempting to make a backup with DOS XCopy. ~~~~~~~~ VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx