[triadtechtalk] Re: New Computer/ Win7 Upgrade
- From: Jim Moss <moss1438@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:12:50 -0600
Question, Infopackets newsletter is suggesting a "Driver Scan" program to
update drivers. I have a XP home and it has been running fine (maybe a little
slow) for five years. Is there any reason I should spend $30 for a program to
update drivers?
Jim Moss
> From: beddy1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: New Computer/ Win7 Upgrade
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 01:36:16 -0500
>
> Brian....One thing to keep in mind about reviews from users/buyers.... How
> often do you actually go back and rave about anything you've bought? I'm
> betting little to none? OTOH, if you buy something that's absolutely
> terrible , you want to tell the whole world about it? Am I close? And I'm
> not singling just you out? I'm thinking that's how most people react to
> things.
>
> If I look at a review and get mostly great or good reviews ....and a few
> snags..I buy it...Especially if it's something technical..like a PC a higher
> end TV etc. Lots of people are not real swell when it comes to technical
> things.. If they have issues, they bale out, or just 'review' it as junk..
> when reality says, they've just not set things up properly?
>
> I had a FIC 503+ motherboard many years ago. Exceptional motherboard at the
> time... Didn't get the greatest reviews, but mostly respectable. What I
> found out is installing the motherboard's software and drivers was the
> issue.. I had to install them in a specific order to make the system run
> properly....That wasn't noted in any of the instructions anywhere. Sooo, a
> less technical person might have loaded they board the 'wrong' way and wound
> up with some serious issues that would never clear up? That person would go
> online and say 'don’t buy this is a piece of junk?" I used that board for
> many years without any issues at all.
>
> You're not likely to find 100% rave reviews about much of any
> products....just try to look at the overall pictures. Are most of the
> reviews good or above.. Do the negative reviews sound like less technical
> people. ( as in maybe they're not really suited to set something up
> properly)...without that sounding like a slam?:))) If I see 5 good reviews
> and 3 not so good reviews. I go for it.
> Also, look at what people are complaining about with a given system... If
> it's speed, do they know how to tweak things to get the speed where it
> should be.... did they do upgrades to drivers and software programs and
> windows like they should? Do they have 7 chat programs loading on every
> boot? ( yep, I DID run into that one time on one of my clients systems?:))))
> Lots of things to think about when you read reviews...Not every screamin'
> demon system runs that way out of the box? One of my friends bought such a
> screamin' demon from Dell this spring.. The 1st boot took over half an
> hour.. once he got a desktop, his CPU was at 93% constantly. That's on a
> $2400 system? The culprit was a trashed Dell service DLL loading the
> database of his system specs..One he turned off that Dell updater messenger
> service the system screams.. darn thing all but changes screens before you
> have a chance to click anything?:)))
>
> On that scenario a less than techy person would send the system back and
> scream like bloody murder about how bad that system is on a review site?
> When the fact is the system absolutely flies. This guy runs WOW and all the
> other high end games (at full bore) and his CPU rarely goes above 15%, or
> some foolish number...
>
> For all those reasons I don't worry too much about buying a 'refurb'.. For
> one thing, you never know why the system was actually returned.. could be
> the nontechy user didn't have a clue.. could be the tower was too large to
> fit inside a desk...the cord was too short, the color didn't match my
> décor....people send things back for all kinds of reasons....and they all
> wind up being 'refurbs'..Refurb in the PC arena no longer means all the bad
> stuff it used to mean.... *I* actually returned 2 laptops ..ok a laptop and
> a netbook...Went looking for a netbook.. beside the netbook was an Acer
> laptop with a 15.6 screen for $50 more....So
> I went with the laptop....got it home and after while decided it was too big
> to be carting back and forth to my other job. Bought the Acer Netbook...Got
> that home and decided it was going to be too much hassle because of the LCD
> screen and my bifocals.. I had to lean down to see the screen properly, and
> look up to get my bifocals on the pages.. needless to say that doesn't
> compute...
> Both those systems went back as 'refurbs' when there's absolutely nothing
> wrong with either system....
>
> Just my 2 cents...
> Bruce
>
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> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM
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> Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: New Computer/ Win7 Upgrade
>
> Degilbo,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> I guess either way there is no way to be sure.
>
> I have read some of the review of what seem to be top new setups, and
> usually 95% of the users were relative happy, but there seemed to always
> some that were very disappointed.
>
> So either way I guess you just have to take your chances.
>
> BRIAN
>
> *************
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>
> Degilbo wrote:
> > Brian, your question really should have been "Can one depend that any
> > unit - new or refurbished - wouldn't be a head ache?". There are good
> > "bargains" to be had in refurbished ones, but there is no way of
> > determining just how long they would last. Similarly, there are some
> > good prices on new units now, but still no guarantee that they will
> > last either.
> >
> > Degilbo
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:23 AM, brian <brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> TTT Members,
> >>
> >> I am still hoping one or more of you may have experience with refurbished
> >> and small form factor computer and could give me some feed back about
> your
> >> experience.
> >>
> >> I am finally narrowing down my choices and any help on this would sure
> help.
> >>
> >> _*Questions:*_
> >> Can one depend that a refurbished unit wouldn't be a head ache?
> >>
> >> Is it reasonable to avoid the mini-tower case computers because adding
> >> components and lack of expansion room would be a hassle? It seems like
> the
> >> best buys are available in that configuration, and I don't want to rule
> them
> >> out if they are a good option.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help.
> >>
> >> BRIAN
> >>
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