[tri-wings] Due date

Sorry I haven't been talking too much lately, I sort have been in the sidelines.

Just wanted to let everyone know that today was my little Jenna's due date.  It 
was on my mind all day today, couldn't concentrate on my work at all to tell 
you the truth.  I just keep wondering how it would have been.  I would have 
loved to have had my child, but we are still trying.

Just wanted to let everyone know, maybe you guys can drop me a cheery email or 
something.

Kelly

mom to Jenna Leigh Trisomy 13 with holoprosencephaly May 3, 2001
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  Subject: tri-wings Digest V1 #281


  tri-wings Digest Mon, 24 Sep 2001 Volume: 01  Issue: 281

  In This Issue:
  [tri-wings] Mandy
  [tri-wings] Fawna - missed this bit off last e mail - Diet
  [tri-wings] I have no one else to talk to about this
  [tri-wings] Sharon
  [tri-wings] Mandy
  [tri-wings] Birthdays and Angel days
  [tri-wings] Fawna - RE: Donna's food
  [tri-wings] This is sad
  [tri-wings] Digest 279
  [tri-wings] Re: Fawna - RE: Donna's food
  [tri-wings] Re: Thankyou
  [tri-wings] Re: Birthdays and Angel Days
  [tri-wings] Re: ultrasound
  [tri-wings] Re: How is Julie ??
  [tri-wings] Re: ultrasound
  [tri-wings] Re: tri-wings are emails being blocked and why??

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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Mandy
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:06:46 +0100


  Many wrote:

  <<Far as i know Kay its bitter or savoury for a boy and sweet for a girl.  
with Matthew it was Pudding Chips and mushy peas, Charlotte was chocolate of 
any kind (this is normal for me but in much greater quantities Lol) Gareth was 
chilli  and Dominic was anything spicy but the spicier the better :-)<<

  Hi Mandy, nice to hear from you. I was wondering how you are.

  YUK ! Pudding chips and mushy peas - what all at once ? ;-)

  Like you, i had chocolate cravings when I was pregnant with Donna - Kyle 
Lemons, Pork Pies and Sausage rolls - so I guess your theory is right.  - So I 
wonder if she is having a son !!

  Take care. 
  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - UK




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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Fawna - missed this bit off last e mail - Diet
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:43:42 +0100


  >>Meat & potato Thom - Camenbert (sp) cheese
  Vegetarian Lara - pickled herring in sour cream
  Philina - Taco Bell green chili burritos (she loves them)<<

  Crikey Fawna !!  Camembert???  We are told not to eat that in this country 
(soft cheeses, raw egg contents, Pates and so it goes on).

  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 




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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] I have no one else to talk to about this
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:02:14 +0100


  >>>Kay -
  It isn't that no one is thinking about it, it just seems that it became a 
very controversial issue on here and some mud-slinging started.  Instead
  of making a major issue about it, as this list is for people to share their 
feelings re Trisomy loss and issues, there is more of a debate on the family 
list.  <<<

  So I guess I am to be quiet huh?  I do not want to join the Family list too 
because I cannot manage all the mails that come through with BOTH lists. (hence 
why I am on Digest now).

  >>So, yes hun it is affecting everyone, I just personally need an escape and 
this is the only escape I get is through this list!  <<

  I need to escape it too, but I also need to be able to share my 
feelings/fears - i guess i had better shut up then.  It is 'odd' because 
earlier this year before I left the list before, I was talking about Kyle and 
was more or less told to shut up by people (off list - and on) because, I was 
accused of being self-centred and thinking the world revolved around me.

  That was directly me sharing about my grief at Kyles loss and me not being 
able to be near young babies and pregnant children.  Now I am really confused 
what I am and am not allowed to share about here.   

  >>Everywhere I turn people are talking
  about "The war".<<

  Well, with something so serious, i would be very very worried if they werent. 
 

  Kay -Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - UK  


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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Sharon
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:45:13 +0100


  >>Kay,  I'm not ignoring this.  I have a friend who has been posted out there 
so I'm more than worried!  But get the impression that we're not allowed to 
'talk' about it.Take care Sharon<<

  I hadnt been aware of that Sharon.  
  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - UK




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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Mandy
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:51:08 +0100


  Mandy, nice to  hear from you.  You are in my thoughts - even when I havent 
mailed you on or off list.  

  Take care.
  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 and Donna   


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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Birthdays and Angel days
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:39:25 +0100


  > Birthdays
  > Jerry 9/23/?
  > Hannah Capp 9/23/91
  > Ron (no last name)9/24
  > Basia 9/24
  > Greg Sutton 9/25
  > Jim Waite 9/26/1953
  > Mark Morgan 9/30/?
  >
  > Angel Days
  > Hayley Shae 9/28/99-10/1/99
  > Victoria Ashley Cheeseman 9/29/96-1/27/97
  > Megan Russo 9/30-9/30/199

  A Happy birthday to all who have birthdays.

  Thinking of those with anniversaries.

  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19yrs - UK 




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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Fawna - RE: Donna's food
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:41:56 +0100


  >>I understand why you picked those things, but the acid in the oranges 
  are going to make make her stomach even worse.  Depending on what kind 
  of yogurt it could do the same thing. <<

  AAAGGGHH  I hadnt realised that.  But she said she was craving Oranges and I 
thought anything is better than nothing to get her to eat something.  If that 
makes sense. 

  Oh well. Will mention it to her and see what she thinks.

  Thanks again.
  Kay - Mum to Kyle  Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - 
UK

  (p.s. can I answer that other mail via you?)




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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] This is sad
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 08:03:48 +0100


  There was a tiny 5 yr old boy found in the River Thames yesterday.  His 
dismembered body was found by a passer by.  It is so sick and so sad.  How 
could someone do this.  They dont even know who he is or where he has come 
from.  Surely, someone would know if there child had gone missing?

  Puzzles me

  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - 
UK - England.  


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  From: "kay.y" <kay.y@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Digest 279
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:55:10 +0100


  >>>The main reason Kay is because I asked that discussions about this issue 
be taken to the Family list. And only then if it can be discussed in a 
reasonable, rational manner like adults and in a way that will not encourage 
flaming. <<<

  Karen I am a little confused why people cannot be "reasonable, rational 
manner like adults" on this list.  That has confused me a bit, i have to say. 

  BTW I wasnt saying what I said as 'flaming' I was just expressing my feelings 
about this whole situation.  It IS serious and very very scarey.  I do not 
belong to the Family list, because I cannot cope with the amount of mail that 
keeps coming through (hence why I am now on digest).  So I am not to share here 
about it now? 

  >>>Because of the huge size of these lists and the volume of mail that that 
generates it really is necessary to have some rules and structure.<<<

  I understand that - but I thought it did say in the rules that we could talk 
about...

  "... how you are feeling today."

  I was talking about my fears/anxieties and feelings - also that Donna's going 
to be directly affected if her boyfriends sisters fiance does not come back 
because they are all friends - and her friends have also been 'called up' now. 

  >>>This also reflects our compassion and respect for others.  I am not 
prepared for these lists to become a political forum nor a place for debate 
about these issues. <<

  I do not recall that I was discussing Politics here - e.g. I have not said 
slaughter such and such or in my opinion this or that Government should or 
should not be doing such and such a thing.  

  Again, Karen, I do not see that I am 'debating' what is going on in the 
world, I WAS sharing MY feelings mainly on this and my fears.  

  >>As you say there are many places on the net where you are free to discuss, 
argue and debate as much as you wish. These lists however are not some of those
  places.<<

  When I said that, I meant a general 'there are many places discussing this 
subject' - I didnt mean there are plenty of places I could share this.  Are you 
telling me that I am not allowed to share my fears/feelings now with this???

   Thank you.
  Kay - Mum to Kyle Nathan T13 (in heaven 18th April 2000) and Donna 19 yrs - UK
    
       

    



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  From: "Fawna Lockwood" <fawna33@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: Fawna - RE: Donna's food
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 07:56:42 -0700


  >>I understand why you picked those things, but the acid in the oranges
  are going to make make her stomach even worse.  Depending on what kind
  of yogurt it could do the same thing. <<

  AAAGGGHH  I hadnt realised that.  But she said she was craving Oranges and
  I thought anything is better than nothing to get her to eat something.
  If that makes sense.>>

  KAY,

  It makes perfect sense....

  Do you have reduced acid, frozen concentrate orange juice available there?
  Or maybe you could just water down juice more, or something with an
  artificial
  orange flavoring, like candy to satisfy the urge for oranges?  Another idea
  might be to have her just smell an orange ecential oil.  Taste is something
  like
  90% smell anyway.  If that works she could just dab some under her nose.


  Fawna, mom of Thom 23, Lara 21, Philina 18 (PT6p),
  loving wife of Douglas,  3 =^..^=s, Bob & Jo the
  African Leopard Tortoises, Dribble the Musk Turtle,
  and Paula, Chica & The Lizard Lady on lay-away.
  Philina's Pharm, Escondido, California, USA
  http://members.xoom.com/Fawna33/PhotoGallery.htm
  http://members.aol.com/sorgl/famtoc4.htm
  My therapist told me a way to achieve inner peace
  was to finish things I had started.  So today I
  finished 2 bags of potato chips and a chocolate
  cake.  I feel better already.


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  From: Ralph1675@xxxxxxx
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 14:35:43 EDT
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: Thankyou

  Rachel,

  I'm so sorry for your loss and sorry that some are not being sensitive to 
  your needs at this time.  I also had two miscarriages besides losing Matthew 
  and I can relate to your feelings!!!! Take the time you need to grieve.

  Kristi



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  From: Rjteacher111@xxxxxx
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 15:42:40 EDT
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: Birthdays and Angel Days

  Mary,
    Happy Birthday to Hannah! Sorry this is late but I was away for the weekend!

  Love,
  Robyn



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  From: DavesLissa@xxxxxxx
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:03:09 EDT
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: ultrasound

  Christina,
  Congratulations on the good news! I think a boy will be so much fun!!
  Melissa, mom to Hannah T 18, Mar 18, 2001




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  From: DavesLissa@xxxxxxx
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:20:51 EDT
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: How is Julie ??

  Kay,
  Julie is doing fine. I think she resigned from the list for awhile as she has 
  a lot going on right now. Ill tell her you asked about her - shell be pleased.
  Melissa, mom to Hannah T 18, Mar 18, 2001



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  From: Catwillow38@xxxxxxx
  Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 19:52:23 EDT
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: ultrasound

  i was sent this by mistake i am sure 



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  From: "David & Tracey Pass" <pass@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Subject: [tri-wings] Re: tri-wings are emails being blocked and why??
  Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:01:51 +1000


  Karen,
  I just wanted to email and give you my support.  I found the discussion a
  few days ago very distressing and applaud you for speaking out and
  condemning it.  I hope that we can go back to what we do best supporting
  each other lovingly as was intended.  Situations like these just serve to
  exacerbate our grief not relieve it.  I for one am emotionally drained
  enough without having to put up with the cr@p that has been happening on
  these lists.  Piero had the best idea which was sparked by Paul's loving
  act. :o))


  "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get!"
  Forrest Gump's mother.

  "Don't worry about the world coming to an end today.  It's already tomorrow
  in Australia"
  Charles Schultz.

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  heaven), JD 10, Jesse 7, Jimmy the dog (dogus minimus), Millie the
  magnificent (Dogus Largeus) and most grateful wife to David the devoted.
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