Hi Paul...my baby son was born as my twins turned 19....yes, they were mortified at the thought of their parents STILL doing "you know"!! I have absolutely loved having him...it is so different from being younger! Having lost Rebecca has left such a hole in our hearts, and we do not want to replace her...BUT we do want another child! Thank you for your help.. Regards Kathy s -----Original Message----- From: tri-wings-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tri-wings-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Farmer Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:19 PM To: tri-wings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tri-wings] Re: Dilema...Preg mentioned We had a child later in life. Shirley was 38 and our daughters were 14 =3D= and 16. They were embarrassed that their parents did "you know" and we had =3D quite a time during the surprise pregnancy. We had been practicin= g natural =3D family planning for 14 years and cheated a couple of times. Things were so much different than when we had the other two. We went to the Lamaze classes =3D and could have been parents to some of the moms. I= t was great. I probably enjoyed it a little more than Shirley. I also gained the same weight as =3D she did. When Lisa was born, there were som= e signs of Downs, but it didn't matter to us, she was going to be loved unconditionally. As it turns =3D out, she didn't have Downs and physicall= y had no problems. She has been a tremendous joy to us her whole life. She is now 20 and still lives at =3D home and is sophomore in college. Here i= s her personal website: http://www.laffer.biz/ You are in our prayers.=3D20 Grandpa Paul Kansas -----Original Message----- =20On Behalf Of Midwifehelp@xxxxxxx ... you cant have happiness without risk. ... _____________________________________________________________________ Virus Scanned and Filtered by - http://www.FamHost.com E-Mail System. =20 Building ___ooOOoo__ Rainbows =20 www.trisomyonline.org =20 Families Helping Families On-line =93This e-mail is sent on the Terms and Conditions that can be accessed b= y Clicking on this link http://www.vodacom.net/legal/email.asp " Building ___ooOOoo__ Rainbows www.trisomyonline.org Families Helping Families On-line