[tri-med] Re: sleep apnea in Tri-18 babies
- From: "Karen" <karens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2006 11:12:14 +1000
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Rosberg"
>I am going to ask for any help available out there! I need collect
> information about any infants that have been on a cpap or bi-pap machine
> at
> home.
Kelly,
Have they tried Amos on medication to help the apneas? Caffeine or
theophylline often helps our kids, even beyond the normal age where it helps
other kids. It wont help for obstructive apneas, but if the apneas are
central in origin then they have been successfully treated with medication
in our kids because sometimes they are simply apneas of prematurity.
Alex was a little older when he went onto C-PAP and then Bi-PAP, however it
was prescribed for him in the US. I also understand where your doctors are
coming from in saying that they can't give C-PAP or Bi-PAP for babies at
home. There are risks but I personally think that they can be got around.
Alex's Bi-PAP is the REM Duo by Nellcor Puritan Bennett (now Mallenkrodt).
It was chosen because Alex hypoventilates (breathes VERY shallowly) and this
was the most sensitive model/brand. That is it picks up even his most
shallow breath and doesn't interfere only supplements. Its not normally used
here in Australia because the company doesn't have the contract with our
health department but I think it should be because its far superior to any
other Bi-PAP we tried here as far as sensitivity and functionality.
It was prescribed jointly by Dr Jeff McDonald (I think that was his name)
and Dr Carole Marcus at John Hopkins University Hospital. Dr McDonald is (or
at least was) a respiratory medical advisor to SOFT USA.
In fact when we got it home and actually set it up I found it too sensitive
and had to turn the sensitivity down.
This sensitivity is in part why they don't like to prescribe them for
babies. Unlike a ventilator which controls every single aspect of the breath
that the person makes C-PAP and Bi-PAP don't, therefore there is the risk
that it could fail, or that the person could die whilst still "breathing".
Plus Bi-PAP doesn't have tidal volume or the bells and whistles that a full
ventilator has eg capnic monitoring. All this means that it could fail
whilst the child is using it and technically the doctor prescribing it could
be held liable.
My answer to that with the doctors here was to sign a release, stating that
I understood the risks - and there was a mile of them, from blowing holes in
his lungs (has happened to some babies) to power failures, dying from CO2
poisoning etc etc. and absolving the doctors and hospital from any
responsibility should Alex die or suffer permanent injury whilst using the
Bi-PAP.
To minimise the risks to Alex we added full monitoring to the regime. (a
monitor that kept and eye on all parameters including capnia (CO2) levels,
O2 levels, respirations etc.
In the end it was the full monitoring that saved his life. The Bi-PAP kept
him breathing and brain injury to a minimum but the monitoring allowed us to
eventually work out why he was having apneas in the first place. Once we
worked that out we could get to and treat the cause of the problem - in
Alex's case it's something called Shapiro's Syndrome. No cure but the
treatment is definitely refined and much better for the master in the long
run.
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-- Josh Billings
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- [tri-med] Re: sleep apnea in Tri-18 babies
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- [tri-med] Re: sleep apnea in Tri-18 babies
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- From: Kelly Rosberg
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