[tri-med] Re: conference video - was Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?

debbie you bring up an excellent point. i am definitely writing this down in my 
book of ideas for the chicago conference coming up in a couple years. 
kelly


-----Original Message-----
From: Debbie <debbwebb@xxxxxxxxx>
To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 3:04 pm
Subject: [tri-med] Re: conference video - was Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?



Why can't the lectures, etc, at the SOFT conferences be taped/video'd for
those of us who cannot go?
In this great age of technology, if some one could tape the conference, it
would be nice to send copies to the drs who *are openminded, (the others are
hopeless) or posted them (I'll do that)!  Send me a VHS, DVD, CD, 8mm...
whatever you have... Claire wouldn't mind giving up some space on her site
and others could link to it if they wanted... does such video exist?

Going to CO was just too much of an expense for us this year - including
time off work - and the same for many other families, but to see this stuff
on my pc would really be beneficial to my family and many many others.  It
would also motivate folks to go to the conference when it is closer to where
they live... and give input and get feedback in person.

Debbie, mom to Claire(T18)

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:39 AM, <dncingqwn@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> this is just one of the reasons that i would encourage anyone to try to get
> their doctors to attend even a small part of a SOFT conference or something
> similar. everywhere you turn around you find a bright shining personality. i
> can remember sitting in the lobby in denver one night. saskia was on the end
> flirting with any man that would walk by and look at her. any one of the
> women tried to talk to her she just gave the look like?"excuse me, i'm
> busy." and went back to smiling and reaching for the nearby men.?morghan was
> pretending, as usual, that she wanted nothing to do with either me or kaiya.
> (one of these days she's going to give me a hug i just know it!) but she was
> perfectly content to sit and cuddle with her mom or debbie.?kaiya was
> hamming it up for anyone that would talk to her. and little ava was asleep.
> kaiya looked over at ava all snuggled up, let out a big yell, and then kept
> looking at ava sleeping. she let out a couple more yells until ava finally
> woke up, cry
>  ing because the mean loud kid scared her. kaiya gave one of her evil
> little smirks, started giggling, and
 then went back to hamming it up for
> everyone else. all of these kids are extremely interactive. i could go on
> all day with stories about different kids... it's ridiculous that doctors
> feel they have the right to treat families so carelessly. these are our
> children, and while the doctor may have a difference in opinion in reguards
> to care, it does not give him the right to disrespect our families by
> treating one of the members as if they are worthless. it took kaiya's ped a
> long time before he addressed her specifically. he would come into the room
> and talk to me, and hardly look at her it seemed. she would be grabbing his
> hands, his stethoscope, his jacket, anything to get his attention - and he
> just didn't look at her. one day he tried to look into her mouth with a
> tongue depressor. she clamped her little mouth shut as soon as she saw the
> darn thing. he finally looked a
>  t her. and i think he was amazed at what he saw. he even said someth
> ing like, "she's a lot smarter than she gets credit for." i wanted to shout
> DING DING DING! you win the prize! way to pay attention and realize that
> there is a kid under that diagnosis! now when he walks into the room he says
> hi to HER and talks to her for awhile before talking to me. of course now
> he's asking her things like, "what did your mom do to you this time?"...but
> that's a whole nother story :)
>
> i don't know if i'm making excuses for them, because i refuse to believe
> that anyone could be so heartless, but i think that all doctors need to hold
> themselves back sometimes. especially the ones dealing with children. it
> would be so easy to get attached to all of their patients i'm sure, but then
> how would they go home and sleep at night. i was watching one of the baby
> shows on TLC the other day and a woman that had lost twin boys said
> something that struck a chord with me. she said, "nobody ever told us before
> we got pregnant that babies can die." when i heard her say that, it struck
> me immediately that that was prob
ably what my biggest problem was. i went
> into the pregnancy with the assumption that i would have a healthy baby at
> the end of it. there was no reason not to think that way. there was no
> reason for a doctor to tell me "hey, just so you know...some babies die." so
> it comes down to tact, and the ability to empathize with a patient without
> making their issues your
>  own. they don't have tact101 in medical school, and maybe they should. i
> wish there was some way to help these doctors understand, and some will, but
> most won't....and it's a good thing we have this listserv to vent about
> their ridiculous behavior.
>
> and i would definitely love to know if there was a copy of dom's speech
> available. i was there, and it was really really moving. i would love to be
> able to share that with my family, kaiya's teachers, and people that work
> with her.
>
> kelly - mom to akaiya t18
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barbara Farlow <b_farlow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tri med lists <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; triwings <
> tri-wings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:09 pm
> Subject: [tri-med] Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?
>
>
>
> Hello friends in trisomy,
> In communication recently with an experienced neonatologist, I was quite
> surprised to read that he believed that children with tri 13/18 were not
> worth
> saving because they were "not sentient", which means that they are not
> capable
> of experiencing joy or interacting with their surroundings.
>
> Wow. This is certainly not what I saw when I did research before my
> daughter was
> born. Sure, it is a tough road, with a lot of sacrifice. But as for not
> experiencing joy....
>
> I sent him some videos; a child with tri 13 and mieko videos (I made
> special
> mention of the one aptly named, "giggles")
> I seriously wonder if loving parents see something as clear as day that
> physicians and the medical system are blind to.
>
> Does anyone have any comments about this?
>
> By the way, the ironman just finished his 11th race to increase awaren
ess.
> He is
> getting more and more press each time. It is pretty exciting.
>
> www.ironmanforkids.com
>
> Barb  (mom to Annie)
>
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