[tri-med] Re: Tonsils/Adenoids and Obstructive Apnea
- From: Nanci Grimes <nancii@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:54:39 -0800 (PST)
Soleah has had several sleep studies--always concluding that her brain is
"normally abnormal" . . . that always makes me laugh. These doctors should be
politicians.
Loren Warnemuende <lorenwarn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Monday, March 21, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Wright wrote:
> {How many kids on the list who have obstructive apnea have had either
>> tonsils, adenoids or both removed? }
> I'm curious about this too. Nicholas' ENT suggested tonsils,
> adenoids, and trimming the uvula without a sleep study first.
It's mind-boggling how many approaches doctors take! Keren's ENT
started off immediately with the sleep-study, but has shied from
surgery. He did, however, check out Keren's ears, nose and throat with
a CT scan. That factored into his feelings about surgery.
> His neurologist and his pediatrician both suggested a sleep study
> before doing any surgery. What can a sleep study actually tell you?
> His ENT said there are no guarantees that his apnea will improve after
> surgery, so I'm wondering if it's worth it. The ENT said he would
> benefit from a larger opening. He doesn't have breathing problems all
> the time, just sometimes at night.
The sleep study tells a lot about what kind of apneas and breathing
patterns the patient has. It's really pretty amazing what all they can
observe. When you go in for it, the techs hook you up (I'm jumping to
second person here, though I realize we're talking about the patient :)
) to all sorts of leads. There are straps that go around the chest and
abdomen that monitor regularity of breathing there (and I think the
"depth" of breaths?). Then there is the monitor that goes under the
nose that monitors CO2 output. A pulse-ox is connected to measure
oxygen levels and dips. And then various leads go on different parts
of the head and face to monitor REM sleep patterns and a few other
things ( I forget what all!). They also check how much you're moving
around in sleep, etc. All the info is fed to a computer that charts
everything out. They can evaluate whether the apnea is central or
obstructive, and also hypopnia (shallow breathing). And they can
determine how much "real" sleep you're getting. For instance, my
grandmother was recently tested and the tech said she was in Level 1
sleep (the very lightest, least refreshing level) for about 90% of the
night--yikes!
Anyway, in a nutshell that's what a sleep study determines.
Obstructive apnea can than be dealt with in whatever method seems best
(that's where my questions about tonsils and adenoids come in). For
many, the best solution is the cpap or bipap machine, but it sounds
like removing the cause of obstruction works for many, too. I just
don't know if that would really help Keren as part of the problem is
tiny openings and lax muscles. The cpap has been a great solution,
fortunately!
Hope that helps!
Loren (wife to Kraig, mom to Keren, T18, two years old (9/27/02), and
new little one due 7/13/05)
Southeast Michigan
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