[tri-med] Re: The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly
- From: William Heisler <mukeni@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 06:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
Glad to learn of the level of care you take. Some
details: small pox is not "non-existent" in the USA.
The military use it to create bio-weapons, and
research facilities are allowed to use portions of its
genetic material for research too. It is true that I
don't know anybody, but there have been a few reported
deaths in cases with Chicken Pox - triers aside.
However, the patients where under treatment, so it is
possible that the treatment or unreported errors had
something to do with the few fatalities. As for flu
shots, I'd rather have flu the natural way then allow
myself to be defiled with that filthy brew.
--- Jennifer Vanderbeek <Phil46@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> When Arwen was a baby, we didn't get her
> vaccinations right away. I bought
> a book that tells how vaccinations are made and side
> effects, etc. It was
> very informative. It gave me a lot of questions to
> ask our ped. We were
> fortunate that he was pretty open and didn't "make"
> us get her vacc. We
> decided to later, simply because whooping cough was
> going around in our
> state, and Arwen didn't have any warning signs
> (allergies, etc.) that would
> make us think she may have trouble. We got Elanor's
> right on time and
> didn't have any problems. I think that vaccinations
> are overall a good
> thing, I mean, smallpox is nonexistent in the US,
> and kids rarely die of
> measles or mumps anymore. I just think the
> government and medical community
> tend to be too militant in the issue. Chicken pox,
> for example. Really, do
> you know anyone who has died from chicken pox? Flu
> shots--everybody I know
> who gets the flu shot (except Elanor-go figure) gets
> the flu. As with
> anything, inform yourself before you make a
> decision. I know some people
> who think the government is injecting you with
> location devices, but that's
> a whole other story...;)
>
> I'm stepping down from the soapbox now. Next...
>
> Jennifer, mom to Arwen, 7; Elanor (t18), 5;
> caregiver to Joe (cerebral palsy
> & spastic displaysia), 26 & Eric (cerebral palsy &
> seizure disorder), 19;
> and wife to Andrew; Boise, Idaho
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nanci Grimes" <nancii@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 6:36 AM
> Subject: [tri-med] Re: The Age of Autism: The Amish
> anomaly
>
>
> > Hmmm, very interesting.
> >
> > I was discussing this article with my daughter who
> is in her peds rotation
> > of nursing school. They are taught how to coax
> parents into getting the
> > vaccines and are told that the negative info is
> outdated etc. . . . same
> > thing my pediatrician said. I could not convince
> her otherwise. I still
> > say mom/dad knowa best . . .
> > William Heisler <mukeni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I've
> heard radio programs that
> > discussed Australia's
> > more aggressive public "health" programs that seek
> out
> > Aboriginal children for multiple vaccinations at
> one
> > time and how the mothers have become fearfull and
> hide
> > from the authorities - one might suppose they have
> > learned of a cause to hide.
> >
> > --- Jocelyn Knowd wrote:
> >> What an interesting article. It makes me wonder
> >> about the incidence of
> >> autism in other culturally isolated communities,
> has
> >> anyone done a survey
> >> in Outer Mongolia, or the Amazon jungle, or even
> in
> >> tribal communities such
> >> as the Australian Aboriginal communities living
> in
> >> the outback.
> >>
> >> As a sideline: Franks's younger brother had a
> little
> >> girl called Fiona, in
> >> Ireland, in the 60's. When we last visited them
> in
> >> 2001, I had the
> >> opportunity to ask them about Fiona, as all we
> knew
> >> was that she died as a
> >> small child. Her mother Trixie told me that "she
> was
> >> a perfectly normal
> >> baby, even quite beautiful, and people used to
> stop
> >> her in the street to
> >> admire her, then she was vaccinated and after
> that
> >> went into a sort of
> >> decline could not sit up, and failed to thrive,
> and
> >> finally died". They
> >> have three other children all boys (grown men
> now).
> >> Trixie is adamant that
> >> the vaccination was responsible, but nothing was
> >> known about it at that time.
> >>
> >> Very interesting subject Nanci.
> >>
> >> At 08:23 PM 22/04/2005 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >Very interesting reading . . .
> >> >The Age of Autism: The Amish anomaly
> >>
>
>>http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20050321-115921-9566r.htm
> >> >
> >> >By Dan Olmsted UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
> >> >
> >> >Lancaster, PA, Apr. 18 (UPI) -- Part 1 of 2.
> Where
> >> are the autistic Amish?
> >> >Here in Lancaster County, heart of Pennsylvania
> >> Dutch country, there
> >> >should be well over 100 with some form of the
> >> disorder.
> >> >
> >> >I have come here to find them, but so far my
> >> mission has failed, and the
> >> >very few I have identified
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