[tri-med] Re: Luke Update
- From: "Karen" <karens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:44:31 +1000
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From: "Kraig Warnemuende"
> One thing I've wondered, too, due to lack of information, is why Luke's
> had to be in the hospital for nine months.
Its a fair question Loren and the answer lies in the different type of
health system.
In the UK, and also in Australia the existence of home nursing is almost
non-existent and nursing staff (and medico's) are far more territorial.
If I am reading the actual judgement correctly not just what was reported in
the media (and I dont have a copy of the FULL judgement yet just bits and
pieces) the primary reason that Luke was still in hospital was the ng tube.
Its not so bad here but 9 years ago when Alex was born it was. NG tubes are
supposed to be temporary and should be replaced frequently and frequently
come out.
In the UK and in Australia a parent cannot replace an NG tube themselves. It
must be done by a nurse or doctor. Once upon a time not too long ago we
could not even get a community nurse to replace the ng tube. Its laxed up a
little here and you would be able to come home with an ng tube IF the
community nurses agreed to changing it AND if you werent too far from a
hospital if it needed changing outside of routine visits. Community nurses
can only come 3 times a week at set times. If you are a country family
forget it - you stay in hospital simply because of the ng tube.
It was the ng tube that caused this whole debacle. The first hospital
eventually dropped the initial court case. It was Ruth's desire to bring
Luke home that her keep on asking for a PEG. What she thought was happening
is that hospital number 1 was transferring Luke to hospital no2 to get the
PEG so he could come home.
But hospital number 2 said no to the PEG and went to court claiming that if
Luke was anaethetised he may require ventilation. Hence the court case. and
my belief that Ruth was set up.
I know that when I learnt those details of the case I sent a few articles to
Ruth's solicitors that that wasnt necessarily the case. Our kids do just
fine in most cases with the anaesthetics.
Anyway the ultimate judgement seems to have said that no Luke could not go
on a ventilator, but the judge did say very specifically that the hospital
were to work with Ruth on developing a feeding regime based on Luke's
assumed LONG TERM survival so that she could bring Luke home. Thats why I
think it was the NG tube that was preventing that.
Here in Australia we dont get to bring kids home if they are highly
dependent, whereas you guys in the US do. There are kids in our hospitals
who are vented and have never left the hospital in their entire lives. I
know one little boy who is now 14 and he is STILL in hospital though they
were able to set him up on a ward instead of the PICU. When I first met him
he was 4 years old and still in the PICU.
Its starting to change - but its a slow change. We do have a couple of kids
at home on ventilators now but only where there are insurance companies
picking up the tab for the nursing care. Private insurance doesnt cover it
and neither will the government.
It really is the difference between private health coverage and public
health and it boils down to $$$ every time. Remember 12 months ago when I
fought the health department here over having O2 cylinders in the house. My
local hospital was trying to get Alex admitted back into hospital every
night rather than spend $300 a year on O2 cylinders. I had to write to the
minister and point out the utter STUPIDITY in paying for a hospital bed
every night as opposed to a silly O2 cylinder. (and you arent supposed to be
able to get the O2 cylinders privately) The system is mad and its often a
case of "so long as you arent asking for anything out of my budget I don't
care" Common sense doesnt exist.
The length of a hospital stay in this country are MUCH higher than in the
US. I remember when I did a stint in the spinal unit that the average stay
in the hospital after a broken neck was over 9 months. Yet in the US you
would be home within a week or two - as soon as the fracture was
stabilised.Different ways of thinking and approaching things between the
health systems
"It is not how much we do, but how much love we put in the doing. It is not
how much we give, but how much love we put in the giving."
~ ~ Mother Teresa ~ ~
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