[tri-med] Re: Evidence-based medicine
- From: Jocelyn <jknowd@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:28:51 +1000
Hey list Mum, I see a "political storm" brewing, maybe its time for
a reminder of what the list is about. Over to you!
At 03:55 PM 24/07/2009, you wrote:
>I am both a parent of a 22 (soon to be 23) year-old daughter with
>T-18 mosaic and a law professor who has followed issues relating to
>health care for over 20 years (and who has written several law
>review articles about health care issues). I am writing this e-mail
>from the SOFT meeting in Roanoke.
>
>There is certainly room to debate (and to do so vigorously) both
>about specific provisions in the various health care bills that have
>been introduced in Congress and about the general idea of addressing
>issues of access to health care in the manner suggested by the
>president. I disagree, however, with the suggestion by Ms. Nafziger
>that the words used either by the president or by the bills that
>have been introduced have the "legal meaning" attributed to them by
>Ms. Nafziger. What is the "evidence" (to use her word) that they
>have this legal meaning? The full text of the bills that have been
>introduced is available to all. Is there evidence in the text of
>those bills to support that assertion of legal meaning? If so, I
>would like to see it. If not, I suggest that it would be helpful to
>all to refrain from portraying policy disagreements as legal analysis.
>
>Neil Cohen
>
>
>
>Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:46:05 -0700
>From: "Audry Nafziger" <Audry.Nafziger@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [tri-med] "Evidence based medine" -congressional contact list
>
>I hope many parents listened to the words uttered by our president
>last night and his plans for how to determine who gets medical care
>and what kind of care they will receive. The part that should worry
>all parents of rare special needs kids is when the President said
>"medical decisions will be based on EVIDENCE based medicine" he
>said those very words- that means that our kids get nothing but
>palliative care b/c as we all KNOW from our doctors across this
>great nation, the "evidence" is that our kiddo's are "incompatible
>with life" and will die anyway ....sends shivers down my
>spine. This is not new in socialized medicine rather it is the "norm."
>
>Not that it matters much but I am a practicing attorney and I do
>have some insights into where this is headed. The words used by our
>leaders do have legal meaning to us.
>
>Think about all the services you get for your kid now from regional
>centers etc. (speech, OT, PT, respite etc.) That will likely be
>taken away as care is rationed for kids where the EVIDENCE is that
>they will live and might even thrive. Have any of your kids
>received any surgeries so far in their lives? Think about it. Are
>you ready to let a bureaucrat dictate IF your child can ever have
>another necessary surgery?
>
>When something IS done to help fix our health care we better stand
>up and have a voice. It is obvious that we do NOT have such a voice
>at present.
>
>We have to fight for our kids and get involved. Please call your
>representatives and these other important people in DC who can stop
>this unnecessary "rush" to socialize health care that -at present-
>will be bad for our kids. We need to be considered and counted
>before drastic changes are made that will forever effect our
>wonderful and valuable children.
>
>If you want to express your opinion too, here is a list of key
>players involved and how to contact them.
>The White House: (202) 456-1111 or send an e-mail at
>www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
>House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.: (202) 225-4965 or e-mail her
>at AmericanVoices@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio: (202) 225-6205 or e-mail
>him at AsktheLeader@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.: (202) 224-3542 or send an
>e-mail at www.reid.senate.gov/contact/
>Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.: (202) 224-2541 or
>send an e-mail at www.mcconnell.senate.gov/contact_form.cfm
>Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Energy and
>Commerce Committee, which canceled its vote this week on health care
>legislation because there was not enough support : (202) 225-3976 or
>send an e-mail at www.waxman.house.gov/contact/
>Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, ranking member on the House Energy and
>Commerce Committee: (202) 225-2002 or send an e-mail at
>www.joebarton.house.gov/contactjoe.aspx?Type=Contact
>Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., member of the Senate Health,
>Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, which passed its health
>care bill last week: (202) 224-2823 or send an e-mail at
>www.dodd.senate.gov/index.php?q=node/3128
>Sen. Michael Enzi, ranking member on the Senate Health, Education,
>Labor and Pensions Committee: (202) 224-3424 or send an e-mail at
>www.enzi.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactInformation.EmailSenatorEnzi
>
>
>Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee,
>which is still working on its version of a health care bill: (202)
>224-2651 or send an e-mail at
>www.baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue
>Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, ranking member on the Senate Finance
>Committee: (202) 224-3744 or send an e-mail at
>www.grassley.senate.gov/contact.cfm
>Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y. chairman of the House Ways and Means
>Committee, which passed its health care bill last week: (202)
>225-4365 or send an e-mail at www.forms.house.gov/rangel/forms/contact.shtml
>Rep. Dave Camp, R-Mich., ranking member on the House Ways and Means
>Committee: (202) 225-3561 or send an e-mail at www.camp.house.gov/contact/
>Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., chairman of the House Education and
>Labor Committee, which passed its health care bill last week: (202)
>225-2095 or send an e-mail at
>www.georgemiller.house.gov/contactus/2007/08/post_1.html
>Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., ranking member on the Health, Employment,
>Labor and Pensions Subcommittee: (202) 225-4501 or send an e-mail at
>www.tom.house.gov/html/contact_form_email.cfm
>Phone calls do matter- you CAN make a difference.
>
>Audry
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Jocelyn, wife to Frank, Mother to Ian, Gillian and Susan, Nanna to
Carly 22 Mathew 20, Ashleigh 19, Alex 17, and Tess (Trisomy 18,)
age 12 yrs, & Benny the Maltese, plus one amazing DIL and two
amusing SIL's of whom I'm very fond, and their extended family who
are too many to list here.
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