[tri-med] Re: Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?
- From: KK G <kkgsupermom@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
Kelly & the rest of you,
You hit the nail on the head, ...
Christopher (full T-18, 3-6-1997~1-26-1998) was ont of the happiest little
guys you could imagine. He smiled a lot, he laughed so cheerfully. How could
they dare even say our children don't have joy- That's a bunch of ..... (you
can fill in the blank, because I will not say it). He just loved when his
biggest brother, Brian, would "fly" him around the house & sing "I'm a little
airplane" or when either of his brothers would "roughhouse" or play pat-a-cake
with his little hands! Even though he was sick, the day before he died, I took
his little hand & pet the kitty. He loved her & he smiled so very sweetly.
~Just check out his pictures- look at those sweet & JOYFUL smiles!!!
A lot of Dr's look at the diagnosis, not the child. We were very blessed
to have a Pediatrician who was & is very special. He talked to Christopher,
interacted with him, etc.... He even said, "We won't let the other dr's treat
him that way" (as if he wasn't going to live, etc). Dr Christopher Cody is the
most wonderful Dr & human being! He got close to Christopher & in our hearts.
The day Christopher died, Dr Cody told us that Christopher was like his own
child & meant a lot to him. He called Christopher his "Little Miracle Baby."
Later, he told us that on that day he went home & he cried. Still, 10 years
later, we get together & have a meal with Dr Cody, on the anniversary of
Christopher's death- we have only missed that date once because Dr Cody was out
of town that week or something. I don't even have the right words for how
wonderful having Dr Cody for Christopher's Dr meant to us. (What more can I
say?)
~Kandy K Goodrich
~wife of David (just had our 24th Anniversary Aug 12th)
~mom of 4 beautiful children:
Brian (22 yrs old & had gall bladder surgery Aug 6th, going to
Jr College),
Joshua (17 yrs old, Senior in High School, ?music? major),
Christopher (Our precious little baby, 3-6-1997~1-26-1998, Trisomy-18),
& Sarah (7 years old, beautiful, strong-willed, very smart & in 3rd
grade)
See Goodrich family pictures at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kkgsupermom/
Check out our precious Christopher's web page:
http://Christopher-Goodrich.virtual-memorials.com
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From: "dncingqwn@xxxxxxx" <dncingqwn@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:39:02 PM
Subject: [tri-med] Re: Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?
this is just one of the reasons that i would encourage anyone to try to get
their doctors to attend even a small part of a SOFT conference or something
similar. everywhere you turn around you find a bright shining personality. i
can remember sitting in the lobby in denver one night. saskia was on the end
flirting with any man that would walk by and look at her. any one of the women
tried to talk to her she just gave the look like?"excuse me, i'm busy." and
went back to smiling and reaching for the nearby men.?morghan was pretending,
as usual, that she wanted nothing to do with either me or kaiya. (one of these
days she's going to give me a hug i just know it!) but she was perfectly
content to sit and cuddle with her mom or debbie.?kaiya was hamming it up for
anyone that would talk to her. and little ava was asleep. kaiya looked over at
ava all snuggled up, let out a big yell, and then kept looking at ava sleeping.
she let out a couple more yells until
ava finally woke up, cry
ing because the mean loud kid scared her. kaiya gave one of her evil little
smirks, started giggling, and then went back to hamming it up for everyone
else. all of these kids are extremely interactive. i could go on all day with
stories about different kids... it's ridiculous that doctors feel they have the
right to treat families so carelessly. these are our children, and while the
doctor may have a difference in opinion in reguards to care, it does not give
him the right to disrespect our families by treating one of the members as if
they are worthless. it took kaiya's ped a long time before he addressed her
specifically. he would come into the room and talk to me, and hardly look at
her it seemed. she would be grabbing his hands, his stethoscope, his jacket,
anything to get his attention - and he just didn't look at her. one day he
tried to look into her mouth with a tongue depressor. she clamped her little
mouth shut as soon as she saw the darn
thing. he finally looked a
t her. and i think he was amazed at what he saw. he even said someth
ing like, "she's a lot smarter than she gets credit for." i wanted to shout
DING DING DING! you win the prize! way to pay attention and realize that there
is a kid under that diagnosis! now when he walks into the room he says hi to
HER and talks to her for awhile before talking to me. of course now he's asking
her things like, "what did your mom do to you this time?"...but that's a whole
nother story :)
i don't know if i'm making excuses for them, because i refuse to believe that
anyone could be so heartless, but i think that all doctors need to hold
themselves back sometimes. especially the ones dealing with children. it would
be so easy to get attached to all of their patients i'm sure, but then how
would they go home and sleep at night. i was watching one of the baby shows on
TLC the other day and a woman that had lost twin boys said something that
struck a chord with me. she said, "nobody ever told us before we got pregnant
that babies can die." when i heard her say that, it struck me immediately that
that was probably what my biggest problem was. i went into the pregnancy with
the assumption that i would have a healthy baby at the end of it. there was no
reason not to think that way. there was no reason for a doctor to tell me "hey,
just so you know...some babies die." so it comes down to tact, and the ability
to empathize with a patient without
making their issues your
own. they don't have tact101 in medical school, and maybe they should. i wish
there was some way to help these doctors understand, and some will, but most
won't....and it's a good thing we have this listserv to vent about their
ridiculous behavior.
and i would definitely love to know if there was a copy of dom's speech
available. i was there, and it was really really moving. i would love to be
able to share that with my family, kaiya's teachers, and people that work with
her.
kelly - mom to akaiya t18
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From: Barbara Farlow <b_farlow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tri med lists <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; triwings <tri-wings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 8:09 pm
Subject: [tri-med] Do tri 13/18 kids experience joy?
Hello friends in trisomy,
In communication recently with an experienced neonatologist, I was quite
surprised to read that he believed that children with tri 13/18 were not worth
saving because they were "not sentient", which means that they are not capable
of experiencing joy or interacting with their surroundings.
Wow. This is certainly not what I saw when I did research before my daughter
was
born. Sure, it is a tough road, with a lot of sacrifice. But as for not
experiencing joy....
I sent him some videos; a child with tri 13 and mieko videos (I made special
mention of the one aptly named, "giggles")
I seriously wonder if loving parents see something as clear as day that
physicians and the medical system are blind to.
Does anyone have any comments about this?
By the way, the ironman just finished his 11th race to increase awareness. He
is
getting more and more press each time. It is pretty exciting.
www.ironmanforkids.com
Barb (mom to Annie)
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