[tri-med] Re: A very nice passage about special children. (Religion menti...

Their is nothing religious or offensive about this message. who  cares what 
religious or not religious website  it comes from, the  message is beautiful. 
 
i did not even go to the website, i just read the letter itself.  beautifully 
stated.
 
Thanks for sharing,
Sharon
mom to Jason T17p mosaic
 
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In a message dated 11/18/2008 9:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gcdavid@xxxxxxxxx writes:
If I may  intervene (at my own peril).
I don't think there is much issue with any  'religious' intonation in the 
article.  The larger issue for Mohammed (if  I may) is the political positions 
of 
the source website, which really had  nothing to do with the message itself.  
Without getting into the politics  of the source website, it is pretty easy 
to see how their positions could be  pretty offensive to some people.  But 
again, it is pretty clear (at least  to me) that the intent of the original 
message was not to push those  positions.

One of the interesting things for me is how people from  innumerable 
backgrounds come together on this list (part of my academic  research is on 
intergroup 
relations).  In modern society, we often find  ourselves coming into contact 
with others who are very different from us on a  variety of levels.  On this 
list, we are all bound by our shared group  identity of being impacted by 
trisomy.  At the same time, that bound can  be dissolved by the inclusion of 
some 
other group identity, especially when  that identity causes some kind of major 
divide.  Politics is of course a  biggie!  It was interesting to see people 
trying to avoid any political  discussion during the election (and for good 
reason!).  We bring that up,  and that we share in the same struggles kind of 
goes 
away.

In a diverse  community (such as this), it going to be impossible to avoid 
potential offense  at all times.  On the other hand, it doesn't make sense to 
start a  trisomy vegan Boston Red Sox Green Party Country and Western NASCAR 
list (if  all of those things could co-exist).  It wouldn't make much sense to  
pigeon-hole ourselves too much, because then we'll end up pretty much  alone.

For me, it comes down to giving the benefit of the doubt (unless  intent to 
push a certain potentially divisive agenda is clear), and perhaps a  slight 
informational email off-list to draw attention to anything that is  potentially 
offensive (albeit unintentional).  

Just some random  thoughts from me.

Gary (dad to Hailey 27 months T13 mosaic who can now  stand up all by herself 
from the floor, is talking (or demanding) in  sentences, and moving faster 
than we can keep up  with)




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From: Mohammed  Taha <abuhamzeh@xxxxxxx>
To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday,  November 18, 2008 8:58:47 AM
Subject: [tri-med] Re: A very nice passage  about special children. (Religion 
mentioned)

I did not object to the  message as I stated in my original reply, I only 
objected about using the  message to promote political and or religous issues. 
All you have to do is  click on the web sites included in your message and you 
will see for yourself  the political and religous nature of  the sites 
promoting Israel. I leave  the rest to the readers to judge for themselves. 
No offense taken I only  seek the truth...

________________________________
From: Barbara  Farlow <b_farlow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tri med lists  <tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 8:40:40  AM
Subject: [tri-med] Re: A very nice passage about special children.  (Religion 
mentioned)

I have no idea about the politics behind this  article. I copied the 
copyright info because it seemed appropriate. 

I  placed a warning that religion was mentioned for those who are offended by 
any  such reference. 

Because the reference to "pure love" was one of the  nicest pieces I have 
read with respect to trisomy children and to me, was not  a religious reference 
but a humanistic and absolute one, I considered that the  benefits of the 
article to the group outweighed any potential  negatives.

Somehow I doubt that the Rabbi who wrote the article about  special children 
specifically did so for the intent of furthering propoganda  on a political 
front. Even if that was the case, they are nicer words than I  have read from 
anyone from any faction, ever. 

Sorry that you took  offense. 

Barb (Annie's mom)
www.anniefarlow.com



>  Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:28:53 -0800
> From: abuhamzeh@xxxxxxx
>  Subject: [tri-med] Re: A very nice passage about special children. 
(Religion  mentioned)
> To: tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> This is truly a  beautiful perspective. The only distraction and bias that 
took away from this  nice message is the attached political web sites 
promoting Jewish and Israeli  propaganda. I don't see any other reason for it. 
other 
than pure  probaganda!!!!!!
>  
> I thought that we agreed to stay away  from religin and politics and to 
keep this web site to address our children's  issues. 
>  
> Dad of Nejoud (T 18, 2 1/2 Yrs old)
>  ________________________________
> From: Barbara Farlow  <b_farlow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: triwings  <tri-wings@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; tri med lists  
<tri-med@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008  12:21:50 AM
> Subject: [tri-med] A very nice passage about special  children. (Religion 
mentioned)
> Hello,
> 
> The Jewish  mother of a disabled son with a genetic condition sent this to 
me today. I  think it is a beautiful way of understanding out special 
children. I  especially appreciate the idea of "pure love". I am sure you can 
all 
relate,  regardless of your faith.
> 
> (IsraelNN.com) Question
> A  friend gave birth to a baby with a rare condition that has rendered
>  her severely handicapped. She is not
> expected to live much past her  tenth birthday. I just can't understand
> why G-d does that. If life has  a purpose,
> what is the purpose of such a short and sad life?
>  
> Answer
> Every birth is a gamble. A soul enters the world  innocent and pure.
> But it may not stay that way. This world is
>  maze of diverging pathways, both good and evil, and the choice is ours
>  which way we go. Once a soul enters a
> body, it is free and therefore  vulnerable to corruption. While acts of
> good elevate the soul, every  act
> of evil makes
> a blemish on the soul.
> Some souls  are so pure, it simply isn't worth the gamble. These souls
> are too  precious to risk being compromised
> by life in a body. They are too  high to come down to this world. But
> the other option, not to be sent  down at all, to
> never reach this world, would mean that we would miss  out on meeting
> these holy and lofty souls and hearing
> their  message.
> So these souls do come down. But in order to be protected  from the
> potential evils of an earthly existence, they
> are  sent down into a body that will not compromise their holiness.
> They  enter this world in a form that is above
> sin, above evil. From a  purely physical perspective we call them
> disabled or handicapped; from  the perspective of
> the soul, they are protected. They will never sin.  Their sojourn in
> this world is often brief and, in terms of  this
> world, may seem sad. But they have retained their purity.  And
> they
> have fulfilled their mission.
> These special  souls remind us that true love doesn't need a reason. We
> often love  others for what they give us -
> we love our children because they are  cute, smart and high achievers;
> we love our spouse for the pleasure  and
> contentment they give us; we love our parents because they care  for
> us. This is love, but it is not pure.
> When a child is born  that will never achieve worldly success, cannot
> provide the usual  source of pride for her
> parents, all extraneous reasons to love her  fall away and what's left
> is the purest love that there can be.  These
> children are lovable not because of what they do for you, and  not
> because of what they will one day become, but
> simply  because they are.
> These pure souls remind us what love should be. Only  such a pure and
> holy soul can elicit such a pure and holy
>  emotion. We can only stand in awe of them, and the parents and friends
>  who
> care for them. And we can only
> thank them all, for giving  us a glimpse of what true love really means.
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