Hugh, Thanks. I do have White Pine nearby and Z. duplicata has been reported in the region. I think I will label it as a maybe. Larry Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 10:38:10 -0400 Subject: [tn-moths] Re: [ncsc-moths] ID Help Washington County 5-9-11 From: hmcguinness@xxxxxxxx To: ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx CC: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx OK, this one is really tough b/c it is a melanic, however, my guess is that this is Z. duplicata. Do you get that species? Do you have white pine growing near you? Hugh On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Larry McDaniel <larrycmcd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Is this a Brown-spotted Zale Moth – Z. helata? 8704, 4-22-11. Larry McDaniel Johnson City, TN -- Hugh McGuinness The Ross School 18 Goodfriend Drive East Hampton, NY 11937