Rich, I gave 9496 a good looking over and think maybe. I also gave a close look at Joe-Pye-Weed Borer - Hodges#9501 (Papaipema eupatorii) which isn't pictured in BugGuide but is on Moth Photographers Group. Have you looked at 9501? Thanks Larry From: Rdhealy1951@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:53:45 -0500 Subject: [tn-moths] Re: I.D. help To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Larry I believe it is 9496 Stalk Borer Moth (Papaipema nebris). Papaipema genus come late in the season usually from early September to mid October. Rich _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/