[TN-Bird] Re: pif landbird population estimate for loggerhead shrike in tn

TN-Birders:

The national Partners In Flight may have a good mathematical model.  I am 
always suspicious
of such anecdotal evidence :-)  They say they agree with me.

According to the PIF landbird population estimate there are 2,900 Wild 
Turkey in Tennessee.
Is that because the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency allowed hunters to 
harvest
a record 33,962 birds in 2004 in 95 counties and the hunter success rate 
reached 27% ?
The harvest in the last five years is 71,875.  Has that caused this enormous 
crash to 2,900 birds?
Does the National Wild Turkey Federation, which has spent more than $1 
million since 1985
to protect the hunting heritage and improve turkey hunting opportunities on 
public and private lands
in Tennessee, realize we only have 2,900 birds left ?  They should pass the 
hat one more time.
I have 29 turkeys on the hill behind my house.  That may be the entire 
county population here
in Sullivan County ;-)

Since we have 10 times as many Loggerhead Shrikes in Tennessee than we do 
Turkey Vultures
(according to the PIF landbird population estimate of 17,300 Turkey 
Vultures) should the Tennessee
Ornithological Society petition TWRA to have a spring shrike season in 
Tennessee to harvest
the surplus shrikes?

Since the PIF landbird population shows there are just 460 more Tree 
Swallows in Tennessee
(2,460) than there are Bewick's Wren (2,000), should TWRA closed the hunting 
season on
Bewick's Wrens until the population is in biological balance with Tree 
Swallows ?   Will nest
boxes be used by Bewick's Wrens the same as Tree Swallows and will that help 
?  Put a
call into the Bluebird Society.

Is Bob Hatcher and the national foundation for the Bald Eagle at Dollywood 
aware that PIF
landbird population estimates have determined that our population of eagles 
has fallen from
115 pairs to PIF's projected anecdotal evidence that the state has 10 Bald 
Eagles ?  Is this
due to the drought ?  If each TOS chapter would sponsor a water sprinkler in 
a local park,
would this alleviate that population crash ?  If we used two water 
sprinklers in each park
would it restore the eagle population to 115 pairs or 330 birds ?  Would it 
be fair if each
TOS chapter marked up each sprinkler about $20 over cost as a fund raiser 
before selling
them to the city park authorities.

Has State Ornithologist Scott Somershoe at TWRA (Tennessee Wildlife 
Resources Agency)
written a memo to his boss, Richard Kirk, to inform Richard  that PIF 
(Partners In Flight)
projected anecdotal evidence population reveals that the Loggerhead Shrike 
(27,700 projected
birds) has displaced the Turkey Vulture (17,300 projected birds in 
Tennessee) ?  Can TDOT
leave more dead deer along our highways to help increase the vulture numbers 
?

Will the TOS board of directors recommend that the Common Raven (PIF 
population estimate
of 40 birds for the state) needs to be stocked with increasing numbers in 
the eastern part of
the state ?  How long can TWRA continue to ignore this population in peril ?

Is the harvest of 350,647 white-tailed deer in Tennessee in recent years 
contributing to the
PIF projected anecdotal evidence of an exploding population of 81,400 
Whip-poor-wills in
the state ?

Maybe Ken Dubke can organize an annual Birchwood Turkey Vulture Festival 
next spring
and tie in a NASCAR Racing Heritage day to give it more diversity.

Someone needs to do something quickly.

Rick Knight thinks the shrike population projection is preposterous!  Steve 
Stedman want to know
what others think of the 300 Loggerhead Shrikes in their counties.  I say, 
thumbs up to
the success of wildlife management in Tennessee.  Just look at what our 
Bluebird tag
dollars have done for the Bewick's Wren population !  We now have more 
shrikes (27,700)
than PIF projects for the population of Red-headed Woodpeckers (21,600).

Go get um TWRA. You the guys !!

Let's go birding.......

Wallace Coffey
Bristol, TN






>
> 29,000 shrikes in Tennessee?   Preposterous!
>
>
> Rick Knight
> Johnson City, TN
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Stephen Stedman <SStedman@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: 10/18/2007 12:45:56 PM
>> Subject: [TN-Bird] pif landbird population estimate for loggerhead shrike
> in tn
>>
>> I was just looking through the Partners in Flight website, which
>> features much useful information relating to North American birds.  One
>> of these features is a section that provides landbird population
>> estimates for North America or for any state or province in North
>> America where Breeding Bird Surveys are conducted.  One of the species
>> provided with a population estimate in Tennessee is Loggerhead Shrike.
>> The population estimate for that species in Tennessee is 29,000 (i.e.,
>> an average of 300 shrikes--150 pairs--per county), and the data on which
>> the estimate is based is rated to be of the highest quality among the
>> categories by which data quality is rated.  I am wondering what other
>> folk in the state think of this PIF estimate for the shrike population
>> in our state.  Please respond to the entire readership.
>>
>> Steve Stedman
>> Cookeville, TN
>>
>> If you want to check out the PIF population estimates for other species,
>> I provide below a website address for the PIF website; copy and paste
>> into the appropriate space of your browser; when you get to that page,
>> scroll down and look near the bottom for the link to "PIF Landbird
>> Population Estimates"; when you get to that page, scroll down to the
>> last paragraph and click on the link for "states and provinces"; when
>> you get to that page, select the species you want a population estimate
>> for in the box to the far left; then select TN in the box for states and
>> provinces; then click on "submit."
>>
>> ttp://www.partnersinflight.org [put an "h" at the beginning of this
>> address after you copy it into your browser]
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first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation.
You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds
you report were seen.  The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should
appear in the first paragraph.
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                         Cleveland, OH
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                          Rosedale, VA
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