Hi Ann, The bird you describe sounds like an Eastern Wood Pewee or an Eastern Phoebe. This time of year there are many young birds of both species that can show a surprising amount of yellow or green on their underparts. The dark head sounds a bit more like a Phoebe, but there are two marks that help make the distinction. First, how prominent were the two wingbars? Young Phoebes can have wingbars that range from fairly inconspicuous to non-existent; Pewees have more prominent wingbars. Secondly, Phoebes usually "wag" their tails when perched, pumping them down and up every few seconds. Pewees don't normally do this. Of course, a Phoebe can decide not to wag its tail for a while, and any bird can wag its tail occasionally, but this is usually a helpful distinguishing mark. You didn't mention any eye ring. On the drab grayish-brownish- greenish flycatchers, it's important to look for an eyering (just as important as wingbars). Yellow-bellied Flycatchers have conspicuous eyerings as well as prominent wingbars. So do the very closely related and much more common Acadian Flycatchers, and young Acadian Flycatchers this time of year can also have a lot more yellow below than the adults do in spring and summer. Pewees have very faint eyerings, and Phoebes often have none at all. The head of a Yellow- bellied Flycatcher is also about the same color as the rest of its upperparts, not notably darker. Yellow-bellieds and Acadians are somewhat smaller than Phoebes and Pewees and MUCH smaller than kingbirds. They also tend to flick their tails up and down fairly often while perched. Just to complicate matters further, this time of year Pewees very often sing a monotonous, repetitive "puh-wee" song. Bill Pulliam Hohenwald TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ EXCELLENT MAP RESOURCES Topographical Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________