[THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
- From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:56:56 +0000
Jim,
Do you use PVS at the library?
Steve Greenberg
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms"; <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:05:44
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
Depends on where you put the vdisk cache. You would need a very large san
for the cache if you want to do it at the data center though. I think you
get better performance if it is on the local workstation
Jim Kenzig
Blog: http://www.techblink.com
Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Huh? Streaming the OS to a Thin Client is a great idea… You don’t need a
> storage device for PVS to work as everything runs over the network. That is
> one of the selling points. Several thin-client manufacture do this today
> and when you do a little inspection it’s Ardence (pre-Citrix) under the
> hood.
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> Joe
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> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Kenzig http://thin.ms
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2009 5:01 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: thin client deployment in a school
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> I agree in this case Citrix Provisioning Server may be the way to
> go because you can stream an entire OS down to the workstation. There are
> many schools currently doing this. However a thin client is not the best
> choice for PVS unless it has enough HD storage space for whatever OS you are
> sending to it.
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> Jim Kenzig
> Blog: http://www.techblink.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/kenzig
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/InternetPilot
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> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Rick Mack <ulrich.mack@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Hi Puneet,
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> I'm the greatest fan of terminal services around and I've done lots of
> successful school terminal server rollouts. I've even got our developers to
> produce freeware utilities so you can run stuff like AutoCAD multi-user on
> terminal services.
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> But 150 students isn't a lot of students and stuff like Maya, 3D Max etc is
> going to need some really hefty compute power (read GPUs) for rendering that
> you're not going to get in a shared environment, either terminal services or
> VDI. By all means use thin clients and put the compute power back in the
> computer room but don't even think about doing this stuff on either a pure
> terminals ervices or VDI solution unless you like pain.
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> Worst case I'd be tempted to go for a mix of VDI and PC blades and since
> the apps aren't OpenGL you're going to have to seriously consider using
> something like HP's RGS protocol which can deliver 3D applications,
> multimedia etc. I'd use HP's T5730 thin clients provided you can get a good
> price and you'll have a brilliant 3D application delivery system. The only
> gotcha with RGS is that the video resolution and colour depth are limited to
> the maximum console video capabilities. That means VMware is out (1180x885)
> for VDI and you're left with something like Hyper-V (1600x1200) or maybe
> some other Xen-based hypervisor to get decent screen resolution.
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> Of course if we're talking PC blades it wouldn't be fair not to mention
> Panologic and Teradici in particular because their solutions are pretty darn
> good for 3D applications (and just about anything else).
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> Citrix provisioning server has a possible place but if you're using PC
> blades there may be less expensive solutions out there.
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> regards,
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> Rick
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> Ulrich Mack
> Quest Software
> Provision Networks Division
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> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Puneet Goel <g.puneet@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi,
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> I have to deply thin client in a school for around 150 students. They
> will be working on advanced IT apps like 3D Max, Maya, Autocad,
> Photoshop, Oracle, SQL.
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> can anyone guide me in finalizing server requirements for them.
>
> thanks
>
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