[THIN] Re: latency

  • From: Frank Monroe <Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:16:53 -0400

The MS hotfixes and registry setting were applied.  The Citrix hotfix was
not applied because I have the behavior even though that feature is turned
off.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Gerard [mailto:GERARDE@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:15 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: latency



Did you try the two MS hotfixes and the necessary Reg edit? What about the =
Citrix hotfix?

>>> Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx 10/03/02 03:44PM >>>

I saw this when you originally posted.  We tried turing off the time zone
feature entirely.  But it did not fix the problem here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Gerard [mailto:GERARDE@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 12:54 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: latency



We have a farm w/ 75+ that we upgraded from Win4.0TSE/MF1.8 to Win2k/MF-XPe=
=3D
, that was having a critical problem. Periodically, we would see the =3D
processor fall to almost 0% utilization and the users would experience a =
=3D
5-30 second delay in keyboard response or pull-down/pop-up menus, although =
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screen refreshes were fine. It was severe enough that we had to roll =3D
back.=3D20

We applied the following MS HotFixes: Q317357 & Q320261. The later =3D
required modifying the Registry Flush rate from the default of 5 sec. to =
=3D
30 sec. While this reduced the problem from happening every 5-8 minutes to =
=3D
once every 90 minutes, it did not eliminate it all together.=3D20

After much hassle attempting and finally getting a Live Remote Debug and =
=3D
Kernel Memory Dump (can't have more than 2GB physical RAM and must only =
=3D
have a single hard drive!), we found out that Citrix' TZHOOK.DLL was a =3D
part of the problem.=3D20

This DLL tracks the time zones for each user session and can be turned off =
=3D
in the Farm Properties of the CMC. Once we did that, our processor =3D
utilization nose dived from 80% to 25% for 90 users.=3D20

There may also be a fix from Citrix. See below:

"Issue with latency and slow logins with Epicare application and XP on =3D
Windows 2000".Can you please apply the following Hotfix along with the =3D
required Registry Change for this issue and let me know the results.

Please download Hotfix XE102W012 from www.citrix.com=3D20=20

Apply: Readme Line Item# 3

3. Some third-party applications became unresponsive
    or otherwise behaved in an unpredicatable or
    undesired manner. This is related to the way these
    applications support API hooking. The problem
    is dependent upon how these applications are
    implemented. To prevent problematic programs from
    using API hooking, set the following registry
    value.

    WARNING! Using Registry Editor incorrectly can cause
    serious problems that may require you to reinstall
    your operating system. Citrix cannot guarantee that
    problems resulting from the incorrect use of
    Registry Editor can be solved. Use Registry Editor
    at your own risk.

    Navigate to the following registry key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Citrix\CtxHook
    Value Name: ExcludedImageNames
    Type: Reg_SQ
    Value: Badapp1.exe, Badapp2.exe, Badapp3.exe
    [From Hotfix XE102W012][#257394]

I hope some of you will find this helpful and won't have to go through the =
=3D
long, painful process we did.=3D20

Erik

>>> CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx 10/03/02 12:44PM >>>

We are struggling with the typing delay a few seconds.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Monroe [mailto:Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:42 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'=3D20=20
Subject: [THIN] Re: latency



Hello,

Are you talking about echo delay or actual pauses for a few seconds while
typing?

-----Original Message-----
From: rose.ratliffe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
[mailto:rose.ratliffe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20=20
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:37 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
Subject: [THIN] latency



Hi,

I am having problem with latency in my XPa /W2K environment.  It occurs in
both when using Lotus Notes and Word.  It has started getting bad again =
=3D
now
that all the staff is back from holidays.

I have done some searching on thethin archives, and found reference to "a
small program that measures latency" but I was unable to find this tool in
the downloads.  Anybody know where I can get this to objectively measure
the latency?

We do hae speedscreen defined, and I have seen discussion regarding =3D
setting
the cursor blink rate (although I'm unclear whether that should be set =3D
high
or low).  I am also going to go looking around tweakcitrix.com, but still =
=3D
I
would appreciate any suggestions from you folks.

Thanks.

Rose
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 Rosemarie J. Ratliffe                        E-mail:
rose.ratliffe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20=20
 Manager Information Systems          Tel: (780) 482 2626
 Alberta Medical Association             Fax: (780) 482 5445
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