[THIN] Re: biggest Citrix farm

Neil,

Got my wires crossed for a moment there on the disconnection story.
Stupid American, huh? 

I should cut down on the coffee I guess. <g>

I think you can cost justify it for larger solutions. Many large
companies already use MI to load simulate their external web servers
and e-commerce. The most expensive part is the Load Runner Console
usually. 

One nice option MI has is the ability for partners to essentially
rent their software for Consulting engagements. They had this a year
or so ago when I first met with them, I assume it is still available.
They do require some training and certification on the partners
part.I don't know how much the publicize this option, but I know they
have offered it in the past. May be something to consider for the
Consultants and resellers on the list.

Thanx,
Barry Flanagan 

 


--- "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Barry
> 
> I was just a bit puzzled with the strange disconnection comment?
> 
> And the comments about the load simulation monitoring on the other
> ancillary machines does sound most interesting. I think it's just a
> shame, that mainly, I would guess most companies won't find /
> justify
> the money for it.
> 
> Neil
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry Flanagan
> > Sent: 27 February 2004 15:17
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: biggest Citrix farm
> > 
> > Neil,
> > 
> > Of course, You are right. MI is difficult to cost justify for 
> > small farms. I mentioned it becasue we were discussing very 
> > large farms. Though load simulation is important in any size 
> > farm, IMO. There are some lower cost options. Scapa works a 
> > bit differently than MI, but I hear it is very functional and 
> > much cheaper (though I have never used it and haven't heard 
> > much about them lately). CitraTest has lot of fans as well, 
> > mainly because they are not expensive. The CSTK of course has 
> > it uses, but it main limitation is all the scripts run on the 
> > server, not on the client. This can help with server sizing, 
> > but does not simulate the entire solution and may not give 
> > you a good idea on user response time. Being free is the 
> > trade off however <g>.
> > 
> > Another advantage MI has is you can use it to monitor other 
> > systems involved in the solution, and therefore determine if 
> > another component is the bottleneck. You can have MI 
> > components on your SQL datastore, your Exchange Server, DC's, 
> > and files servers for example, and be able to correlate a 
> > major increase in response time to a CPU spike on a file 
> > server or Exchange server.  For full disclosure, I do NOT own 
> > stock in MI (in case you are starting to wonder), but I am 
> > sold on load simulation. 
> > 
> > You are right in your assumption on Fr3. The improvements in 
> > IMA are not specifically a feature and are part of the SP. I 
> > guess I should have just used SP3, instead of FR3.
> > 
> > BTW, your strange disconnection story was read with great 
> > interest by many of my co-workers around the world (I 
> > forwarded it, hope you don't mind). Thanx for sharing!
> 
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