[THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
- From: "Joe Shonk" <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:23:46 -0800
It only makes sense, you have to pay to upgrade... You now have to pay =
to stay the same (new MS Enterprise Licensing agreement). So the next =
logical step would be to pay for to downgrade.
Joe
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From: Rink, Jesse [mailto:JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
Knowing Microsoft, they'll tell me "so sorry..." haha. But you're =3D
right, my clients WOULD be downgraded so I should have to pay them for =
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Jesse Rink
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414-525-8461
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:17 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
You may be able to talk to Microsoft about obtaining the TS-CALs for the =
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rink, Jesse [mailto:JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:10 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
Yea I know about the citrix licensing, got my prices from my reseller =
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Well it sucks that I'd have to shell out of additional TS cals if I run =
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if I don't run 2000 Pro, and opt to run DOS, then I'd have to go out and =
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-----Original Message-----
From: P.J. Johannsen [mailto:pjohannsen@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D20
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:06 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
You would need TSCALs if you are connecting from a DOS based client.
From what I read before, you are connecting to plain 2K Terminal =3D3D3D
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Citrix licenses in addition to the Windows TSCALs.
PJ
>From: "Rink, Jesse" <JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:59:03 -0600
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>If I used the ICA dos client, would I then have to buy additional TS =
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:44 PM
>To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
>Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
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>Yes and have had no problems with it. You just need to watch out for =
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rink, Jesse [mailto:JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D3D20
>Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 9:40 a.m.
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
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>I'm wondering if I should look into the Citrix ICA client for DOS. Has =
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>My goal here would be to make it so the user HAS to log in to the =
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>terminal server/citrix box and has no other options. I don't want them =
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>414-525-8461
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: P.J. Johannsen [mailto:pjohannsen@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D3D3D20
>Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:34 PM
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after boot?
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>I think it has to be an executable. I am not sure if there is a way to =
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>the rdp file to the client executable or not. Anyone else tried this?
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>PJ
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> >From: "Rink, Jesse" <JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after =3D
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> >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:19:58 -0600
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> >So you're saying to replace explorer.exe with the termserv.rdp I =
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> >Jesse Rink
> >Network Engineer
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> >414-525-8461
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: P.J. Johannsen [mailto:pjohannsen@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D3D3D3D3D3D20
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:07 PM
> >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after =3D
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> >Try this on a test machine as this is one of those "at your own risk" =
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> >Change the Explorer.exe to the shell you want. In this case, perhaps =
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> >but can potentially down a machine if it doesn't.
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> >PJ
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> > >From: "Rink, Jesse" <JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after =
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> > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:03:42 -0600
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> > >I'm not sure how to do that. I've heard of people doing that with =
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> > >2000 but I've no idea how.
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> > >Jesse Rink
> > >Network Engineer
> > >Whitnall School District
> > >414-525-8461
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> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: P.J. Johannsen =3D
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> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:58 PM
> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: automatically go to term services logon after =
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> > >Could you just boot to a shell with the client?
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> > >PJ
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> > > >From: "Rink, Jesse" <JRink@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Subject: [THIN] automatically go to term services logon after =3D
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> > > >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:38:38 -0600
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> > > >
> > > >Is this possible for a PC that is running Windows 2000 Pro?
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> > > >1. User turns the PC on
> > > >2. PC boots into Windows 2000
> > > >3. User is automatically logged in (user does NOT have to do this =
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> > > >4. User is prompted with the logon box for terminal services
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> > > >In other words, can the PC's desktop of Windows 2000 Pro be =
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> > > >I would think this would be possible with group policy settings =
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> > > >Jesse Rink
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