[THIN] Re: Windows 7 Isn't going to be much different than Vista

LOL...  Jim.. I love it.. You did not kill that man last week did you???

But, I think it goes deeper than being an open book.   The ³we know all²
world is a very scary place as power corupts and I can give you a billion
examples of how good people use info for bad purposes...

Also, I¹m an open book too.  I mean, search google for ³Doug Brown²... It is
me.. Top of list.... So, I can be found too...  I live at... 265
Montelluna... Oops.. Too much info.. ;)

Anyhoo, I agree with you but at the same time it is a scary thing... I just
hope freedom always wins....




On 5/30/08 9:50 PM, "Jim Kenzig" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Remember that 80's song.. I always feel like someone is watching me... and I
> get no privacy! LOL
> The damage is done in my case I am afraid. My life is out there and anyone can
> find me. 
>  
> That being said every web site you visit your activity is logged.  Ever done a
> Ctrl-h in IE after a day of browsing and looked at the history that comes up?
> Hey I'm an open book. I don't really care what someone thinks about me, you'll
> get my honest opinion whether you like it or not. I've had my share of flame
> wars over the years and I think I may of killed a man in Texas just to watch
> him die but that is all fuzzy it could of been a movie.
> JK
> 
> 
>  
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Douglas Brown <dbrown@> wrote:
>> I have a problem with Google apps and it is around security and privacy.  I
>> don't know if I want to put my corp. data or my personal data in the hands
>> of the kings on indexing and then have them use it to market to me or worse.
>> What keeps Google from using that info that way or in a worse way?
>> 
>> I read a very disturbing booked called "IBM and the Holocaust" where Nazi
>> Germany used the info IBM collected to kill people based on their blood.
>> Nothing worse than that and I know this sounds funny and way off base but I
>> bet it sounded the same in 1929 when they did they last census before Hitler
>> started using the data for bad.
>> 
>> Google has already shown they will bend over to China and give names to the
>> Chinese Govt. and I bet those people (the names) are not so well off at the
>> moment and maybe not so far off from the fate of what was used in Germany in
>> the 30's and early 40's...  This is a slippery slope and I don't trust
>> Google one bit.  You can have the mantra, "Do no evil" but their China
>> policy already shows they have the ability to partner with Evil.
>> 
>> So, that being said, I don't trust it... But, they do create some killer
>> software... But I will keep my business docs and personal docs on my network
>> not with the king of indexing..
>> 
>> Also, I know this sounds far fetched but did Bush not ask Google for search
>> results?  And of course if you have nothing to hide then what is the
>> problem?    It is a slippery slope and has the ability to be used in a VERY
>> bad away.
>> 
>> My wife does not agree... But I think a lot of people did not know what
>> would happen before it happened.  That is why the EU has such tight privacy
>> policies...  They have seen what info in the hands of "indexers" will do.
>> It happened 3 times in Europe in the 1900s...
>> 
>> Also,  I actually did not come up with all this by myself.  They had this
>> discussion on the Cranky Geeks (www.crakygeeks.com
>> <http://www.crakygeeks.com/> ) and amazing video
>> podcast show...  I highly recommend it.  It  is an awesome show...
>> 
>> 
>> Am I losing it or does anyone see any validity do my argument?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/30/08 6:04 PM, "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>> >
>>> > Hmmmm... I have sort of ignored Google apps, but I trust Greg, should
>>> check
>>> > that out.....
>>> >
>>> > SteveG
>>> >
>>> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: "Greg Reese" <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:35:56
>>> > To:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:To%3Athin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I really think we could make due with Google Apps too.  A few hard core
>>> > financial people and higher ups need full MS Office, but most of the day
>>> to
>>> > day could use google apps and live.  at $50 a person for email,
>>> calendaring,
>>> > power point, excel, word, document storage.  Plus I don't have to back it
>>> up,
>>> > provide storage etc.  It's not too bad to think about.
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008
>>> > at 4:07 PM, Doug Rooney <Doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:Doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ubuntu for workstations,
>>> > CentOS for servers, works for us J
>>  
>> Thank You
>> -Doug Rooney
>>  Sonoma
>>> > Tilemakers
>>  IT Systems Administrator
>>  7750 Bell Rd.
>>  Windsor Ca, 95492
>> 
>>> > (707) 837-8177 X11
>>  (707) 837-9472 FAX
>>  it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:it@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>  
>> 
>> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > <mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk
>>  Sent: Friday, May
>>> > 30, 2008 2:02 PM
>>  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>>> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 7 Ain't gonna be much different than Vista
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>> >
>> 
>> I guess it's time to switch to a Mac.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> On Fri, May 30, 2008
>>> > at 10:42 AM, Jim Kenzig <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx> >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>> 
>> As I said a few weeks ago on the Windows 2000 list .. start learning Vista
>>> > now...
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> >
>> http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about_w
>>> > indows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535
>>> > 
>>> 
<http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/operating_systems/eight_things_about>>>
_w
>>> > indows_7.html?kc=MWRSS02129TX1K0000535>
>> 
>>  --
>>  Jim Kenzig
>>  Microsoft MVP -
>>> > Windows Server Presentation and Hosted Desktop Virtualization
>>  Citrix
>>> > Technology Professional
>>  Blog: http://www.techblink.com <http://www.techblink.com/>
>>> > <http://www.techblink.com/>
>>  
>> 
>> 
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