I'm not sure about Firefox or Opera, but Mozilla supports NTLM from v1.6 onwards! :) Andrew --o-- >>> Jon.Spriggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 25/08/04 15:53:01 >>> Unfortunately, the company intranet requires the presence of an NTLM'able browser, which strikes off all of the mozilla et. al., otherwise, I'd definitely do it! I'll probably stick a sniffer on the system on Friday, and then schedule task to start at 6:00... See what traffic goes on. Cheers for your help guys :) Jon Spriggs -- The presence of a "Fujitsu" address does not imply or assume that Fujitsu Services, Fujitsu or any other company containing the Fujitsu name uses or endorses this product. This email is purely a personal opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Rogers [mailto:Andrew.Rogers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 25 August 2004 15:37 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2k Terminal Server - Accessing Internet Problems It seems odd though that as you said this is a replacement machine for another one which did the exact same thing.. When the server next dies, you could try running ethereal or tcpview to see where the server is trying to connect to? As someone else said, the contents of the reboot script may be useful.. Try the server on Saturday, see if IE is dead on that day. And if you wanted to get really drastic, you could try install firefox/mozilla/opera in the meantime to let them get on with whatever theyre doing, while you look into the problem before you restart the server! Andrew --o-- >>> Jon.Spriggs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 25/08/04 15:09:31 >>> I've got CA's AMO installed on the machine, and I've just disabled the two weekly tasks that it runs. I had a daily task that I installed which rebooted the machine at 6:55 daily, which I put in place after the fault started happening... that's been disabled. There is also a weekly batch file which deletes the temporary internet files. I've changed this so it runs daily, so I'll be able to see tomorrow if it's that at fault - but it doesn't appear so as the task seems to finish OK. I've just finished running a spyware checker (spykiller) and I've run an AV scan (no viral activity). All it came back with was a series of cookies and jpg images... so, I'm guessing that it's not going to be that then... Hmmmm. Jon Spriggs -- The presence of a "Fujitsu" address does not imply or assume that Fujitsu Services, Fujitsu or any other company containing the Fujitsu name uses or endorses this product. This email is purely a personal opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Miller [mailto:JMiller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 25 August 2004 14:15 To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2k Terminal Server - Accessing Internet Pr oblems Just a thought: Since this is happening routinely at a specific time on a specific day, I'd look into any type of automated tasks that could be running also. You never know what you may find. -----Original Message----- From: Arthur Reyes [mailto:artadmin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:17 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2k Terminal Server - Accessing Internet Problems It does sound like spyware to me as well. What is running on server startup? As a stop gap/test, try using a hosts file to block external ad/spy sites. If it keeps your server up one day, using the hosts file may confirm this. I've been getting mine from here: http://www.accs-net.com/hosts/get_hosts.html But these sites are also nice linked. http://cexx.org/neuter.htm http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm <http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm> _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Spriggs Jon Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:12 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Windows 2k Terminal Server - Accessing Internet Problems Hi, Can anyone help me? I have a Windows 2000 Advanced Server with Terminal Services where every Monday between 7am and 8am its preventing my users from accessing the internet. A reboot seems to solve it once it's happened, but a reboot an hour before (6am) doesn't stop it from happening. Short of running Snort on the server and some form of keylogger to see what all the users are doing (which I don't think they'd be happy about), I'm stumped as to what I can do next. Any suggestions? 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