[THIN] Re: Windows 2003

The feedback is coming straight from their checkbook!

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Posted At: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:34 PM
Posted To: TheThin
Conversation: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003



I'd like to know where they are getting this customer feedback... Just =
=3D
about everyone I've ever meet thinks concurrent (per session) licensing
=3D is the way to go for Terminal Services.  Does 2k3 not offer =
concurrent
=3D licenses for regular client/server services... NT4.0/W2K offered =3D
concurrent license or per seat.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:25 PM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003



I love this:

Q.       <<...OLE_Obj...>>      Why didn't you implement concurrent or
Per
Session TS licensing? It was included in Release Candidate 1(RC1)-why =
=3D
did you take it out?=3D09
 <<...OLE_Obj...>>       <<...OLE_Obj...>>       <<...OLE_Obj...>> =3D09

A.       <<...OLE_Obj...>>      Per Session licensing was evaluated in
the
beta and RC1 pre-release versions of Terminal Server in Windows Server =
=3D
2003. During the evaluation period, Microsoft received customer feedback
that =3D Per Session was good, but that it was being used as a =
substitute
for Per =3D User licensing. In addition, Microsoft has received regular
feedback that consistency in licensing should be a top priority. Windows
Server 2003 =3D will offer user licensing in Windows Server 2003;
therefore, user licensing =3D for Terminal Server is more consistent =
with
Windows Server, and is more in =3D line with the future direction of
Microsoft licensing. =3D09

Sure... sure it is.

-Paul

> ----------
> From:         Jim Powell[SMTP:jim.powell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Reply To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:         Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:20 PM
> To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
>=3D20
>=3D20
> Microsoft just posted the Windows Server 2003 Pricing:
> =3D
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/pricing/default.mspx
>=3D20
> And a long discussion of licensing under Windows Server 2003:  =3D
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/howtobuy/licensing/default.ms
> px
>=3D20
> Jim Powell
>=3D20
> >=3D20
> > Oh spirits of the ouija board - how shall we license our next=3D20
> generation of
> > Operating Systems?
> >=3D20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Kenzig" <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:46 AM
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > >
> > > All subject to change if the wind blows right and there is a=20
> > > full=3D20
> moon on
> > > the fourth Tuesday of the month. ; )
> > > Hey it is Wednesday after all.
> > > JK
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Stansel, Paul
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:39 AM
> > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > > Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just got off the phone from an extensive conversation about=20
> > > licensing with our sales reps.  Here's what they told me.
> > >
> > > 1) If you buy Windows XP prior to April 24th with Software=20
> > > Assurance, you are covered for Sever 2003 CALs.  After that and =
=3D
you=3D20
> are
> > out.
> > >
> > > 2) There is an External Connection License that replaces the=20
> > > Internet Connector License.  It is a per-server license, =
rather=3D20
> than the
> > Per
> > > User like the ICL.
> > >
> > > 3) Their opinion was that named user CALs and regular per-device=20
> > > CALs would likely be priced the same.  I'm still a bit dubious=20
> > > of=3D20
> that
> > one,
> > > since it seems like a losing proposition for MS depending on=20
> > > your=3D20
> setup.
> > >
> > > Anyway, just some interesting tidbits to pass along.
> > >
> > > -Paul
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