[THIN] Re: Windows 2000 TS CALs on Compaq EVO terminals

  • From: "Tony Lyne (Computerland)" <Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:03:02 +1300

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hathaway [mailto:JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 10:55 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2000 TS CALs on Compaq EVO terminals


Interesting. Are the T20's running NTe?

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Lyne (Computerland) =
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:42 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2000 TS CALs on Compaq EVO terminals


Thanks Jim,

That answers one question I had but the main problem is not the =3D3D
releasing of
licenses back into the pool.

The problem is the Evo's are not picking up CAL's (in which there are =
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plenty
available). Instead they are getting temporary CAL's after they have =
=3D3D
been
assigned temporary CAL's. They are simply not releasing the temporary =
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CAL's
and requesting new permanent CAL's once the temporary license has =3D3D
expired.
This seems to be happening in patches. Where some terminals with get =
=3D3D
the
CAL's and others wont.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hathaway [mailto:JimH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20
Sent: Friday, 14 February 2003 10:02 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Windows 2000 TS CALs on Compaq EVO terminals


Tony,

With a properly updated TS license server and TS servers, the standard
procedure for releasing TScals back into the pool, is for a cal to not
have been used for 90 days. (meaning the machine it's assigned to has
not attempted a TS connection in that time frame)

As for Eval licenses, after a machine has connected to a TS server (I
believe it's 3 times) a full TS cal is assigned if available, or the
client is locked out.=3D3D3D20

All of this happens on the server side . . . not the client (or the
T20's). So, you need to call the MS clearing house to get all licenses
re-issued to your TS licensing server. (so that you have some spare TS
licenses while they do their win9x to evo migration)

Many people don't seem to realize that even with a fully service packed
TS license server and TS servers, if a TS cal was issued to any =3D3D
client's
prior to the service packs and license fixes. That license won't =3D3D
expire,
or utilize any of the license behavioral fixes. Only licenses issued to
clients after the service packs have been applied to the TS license
server and the TS servers will behave properly. Every full TS cal =3D3D
issued
should display an expiration date, if they don't, they were issued =
=3D3D
prior
to your service packs, and need to be re-issued via the MS clearing
house.=3D3D3D20

If you don't believe me, please note the following Q from MS that
explains all the TS cal behaviors with current service packs. (although
it doesn't list SP3, in this article, SP3 adjusts other TS licensing
issues such as the DB size, so the info from q287687 still applies).

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3D3D3D3DKB;en-us;q287687

HTH

J

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From: Tony Lyne (Computerland) =3D3D
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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:06 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Citrix Internal Forum
Subject: [THIN] Windows 2000 TS CALs on Compaq EVO terminals

Hi Guys,

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Question: Has anyone managed to figure out how to get the Compaq Evo
T20's
(and possibly other terminals) to release a temporary CAL and pick up a
new
permanent CAL (Windows 2000 TS CAL im talking about here).

=3D3D3D20

I have a customer with an annoying problem where he is slowly replacing
all
of his Windows 9x machines with Evo's and the user is effectively =3D3D
taking
up
2 CAL's because their old machine has 1 CAL and the new EVO gets a
temporary
CAL, as there is no more CALs in the pool. Even though they have the
correct
number of CALs for their user base.

=3D3D3D20

They have all of the Licensing H/Fixes applied to their TS licensing
server
and Terminal servers.

=3D3D3D20

The only way I have been able to fix this so far is to erase the config
of
the T20 and reset it up again.

=3D3D3D20

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