The objections that are raised are somewhat outdated and Netscaler in specific has overcome most of them in their product. I have the engineering response from Netscaler to those articles but I had it under NDA so at this point I can't post it. Suffice it to say that in practice and real world conditions, these are non-issues.... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeremy Saunders Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:45 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's Some interesting stuff from some design research we've been doing... Why DNS Based Global Server Load Balancing (GSLB) Doesn't Work http://www.tenereillo.com/GSLBPageOfShame.htm http://www.tenereillo.com/GSLBPageOfShameII.htm http://www.tenereillo.com/BrowserDNSCache.htm This stuff is pretty full on, and very well written. It would be interesting to get the view of a NetScaler Engineer on this. Cheers. Kind regards, Jeremy Saunders Senior Technical Specialist Infrastructure Technology Services (ITS) & Cerulean Global Technology Services (GTS) IBM Australia Level 2, 1060 Hay Street West Perth WA 6005 Visit us at http://www.ibm.com/services/au/its P: +61 8 9261 8412 F: +61 8 9261 8486 M: TBA E-mail: jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@thinclien t.net> To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's 23/05/2006 10:44 PM Please respond to thin Does this avoid the original issues? Nothing else should be required on the WI. Where is your Netscaler placed on the network? (DMZ, LAN, same segment as WI, etc.) Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:32 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's Hi Steve We are doing what you suggest already. Found the persistent session timeout on Netscaler was ten minutes. We have now set this to the same length (720) of time as set in the web.config on the WI server. I assume no tweaks are needed on the WI servers? PS this is WI3 with XPe FR3 Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 18 May 2006 13:45 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's A persistent session with a cookie insert should do the trick, double check that the client is not blocking cookies! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:04 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's That would be great. I'm sure it's the netscaler piece that is not quite right....You didn't make any changes to WI to help? -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 17 May 2006 16:45 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's That should work right. I happen to be working with a Netscaler engineer today, I will see if I can learn more for you Regards, Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:41 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's I believe so. Think we are using a Cookie. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: 17 May 2006 16:08 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: WI and Netscaler's Are the sessions persistent? If so, what is the persistence based on? Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of BRUTON, Malcolm, GBM Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:32 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] WI and Netscaler's Hi All Anyone have some pointers for getting WI to work well with netscalers. Essentially we have two WI 3 servers and two Netscalers and load balance. Having some issues where WI seems to go into a loop and not display apps. Also does not always display icons and sometimes straight after logging in says the session has expired. If you close the IE session and go back in it works correctly. Also if you go to both the WI server directly without going via Netscalers it works correctly. Tips and hints to look at ? Malcolm **************************************************************************** ******* The Royal Bank of Scotland plc. Registered in Scotland No 90312. Registered Office: 36 St Andrew Square, Edinburgh EH2 2YB. Authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority This e-mail message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If the message is received by anyone other than the addressee, please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer. Internet e-mails are not necessarily secure. The Royal Bank of Scotland plc does not accept responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. 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