"Can anyone confirm that for a W2K3 License Server to issue TS CALs to W2K TS clients on another Domain, do you need to have these 2 Domains Trusted? If the Trust is required will it work as an Inter Forest Trust and can it just be in one direction?" I'm basing this on how it's /supposed/ to work, so do test. - Per device mode: A W2K client (WS or Server) needs to have a TSCAL token to access a W2K3 terminal server running in "per device" licensing mode. So the TS looks at the client and says "hey, that's a valid token" and lets it access TS services It does not care where the TSCAL was issued from, and won't check it at that point with the licensing server. However if the TSCAL is due for renewal, it will need to go back to the server from which it was issued to attempt to renew the lease for that TSCAL and re-issue it. - Per user mode: The TS says "I'm in per user mode" and does not check the TSCAL. Only works for Y2K3 - not W2K. Either way, the terminal server checks periodically that ther IS a valid license server somewhere (I can't remember exactly when or how) No mention of trusts => I think it's safe to assume that this does not have anything to do with domain trusts. I would have thought that given that the TS licence service is not AD integrated, you should find that it works totally independantly of anything else you have. I don't know what happens to the TSCAL if you try to use a client on 2 different systems that are totally unrelated both running in per device mode. Theoretically, the license server from A should recognise a TSCAL from B as being valid, but then how does it re-issue a TSCAL to a B machine from the A license pool? Would it require the client to have 2 TSCALs, one for A, one for B? (Note - this is not an issue if the license servers can see each other and sort it out between them) You do need your license servers set up in Enterprise mode. The only place I've ever seen that explained unambiguously is in one of Brian Madden's books. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Martin Stephenson Sent: zondag 12 december 2004 2:32 To: Thin List Subject: [THIN] W2K3 TSCAL License Server in multiple untrusted Domains. I have searched through the first couple of hundred hits on this topic on the Thin List archive and cant find the answers, so hopefully someone here can help. We have a requirement to manage all TS CALS on one pair of W2K3 servers, which will be located at a pair of Data Centres in the Head Office. We have multiple untrusted AD (W2K & W2K3) Domains and several Citrix Farms all connected via various quality WAN links. The TS servers will have the reg key set which points to the License Server. We were previously able to use a W2K License Server to issue TS CALs to clients in multiple untrusted AD Domains. In initial testing with the W2K3 License Server, we have found that it is no longer issuing license across untrusted Domains. There is a KB article that pretty much suggest (in a little foot note) that you should have trusted Domains for this to work on W2K3. Can anyone confirm that for a W2K3 License Server to issue TS CALs to W2K TS clients on another Domain, do you need to have these 2 Domains Trusted? If the Trust is required will it work as an Inter Forest Trust and can it just be in one direction? Secondly are there any known logon latency issues with having your W2K3 TS Licensing Server located at the far end of a WAN link from your client W2K TS? For some reason I have this nagging thought that when a user logs into a remote W2K TS and obtains a license from the Licencing server located a couple of thousand Km away that there will be added delay to the logon process. And if this is the case, will the delay still occur even after the client has received a permanent CAL? 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