[THIN] Re: VMWare Server Sizing

  • From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 14:11:48 -0700

ESX is defintely the way to go for this application. I don't know =
whether or
not they support a scripted installation, but the installation is a very
simple GUI Linux installer that "looks" like it could be easily =
scripted...

Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax=20
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-----Original Message-----
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Of Tony Lyne
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 2:08 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare Server Sizing


Well it sounds like ESX is the way to go then for this client. I will =
=3D get
hold of a copy and look at scripting options with it for deployment.

I do have to scope this farm to expand, as they intend on making the =3D =
farm
available to possibly 100s of thousands of users globally in the =3D =
long
term. The farm will span Australia and NZ as well.

eDirectory and Zen works will be integrated into the farm as well so I =
=3D can
use Zen for the scripted build side of things.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2004 8:44 a.m.
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare Server Sizing


On very similar hardware we have a client running four virtual machines =
=3D
=3D3D and there is plenty of resources still available. It is going to =
depend
=3D3D entirely on the load you require, but for non-resource intensive
applications 10 =3D =3D3D or 15 machines is quite possible. Keep in mind =
that
you will not gain performance as a whole, you will just have the ability =
to
divide the resource up into multiple servers. This is based on using ESX
server, on =3D =3D3D GSX you should expect lower overall performance on =
the
virtual machines.

I see the benefit as being able to host multiple functions on the same
hardware. The customer we are working on this has a low Citrix user =
=3D3D
count, but does not want to have to buy hardware for a dedicated data =
=3D3D
collector, web server and other light duty functions unrelated to Citrix
that they. =3D =3D3D As a result, they run two ESX servers, maintain a =
redundant
Citrix farm =3D3D with a dedicated data collector, and, have resources
available for other =3D3D servers that they would otherwise need to buy =
and
dedicate hardware for.

Regards,

Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax=3D3D20
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx



-----Original Message-----
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=3D =3D3D
Behalf Of Tony Lyne
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] VMWare Server Sizing


Guys,
=3D3D20

Im in the middle of designing a Citrix farm for a client and it seems =
=3D =3D3D
the VMWare subject has been thrashed around here quite a bit. But one =
thing
=3D =3D3D I can find is the number is VMware sessions that should be run =
per
server before serious performance issues are hit.

=3D3D20

The farm will be running Linux then Vmware on that which will be =3D3D
launching multiple VMWare Win2k3 server sessions with MFXPa/e.=3D3D20

=3D3D20

If they will only be doing the basic work like MS Office and other =3D3D
office applications, typically from experience how many VMware sessions
would people expect to get per server before they notices a performance =
hit?

=3D3D20

The server kit will be DL360G3's with 4GB RAM and mirrored disks.

=3D3D20

I was expecting to start with each server running 2 VMware sessions each =
=3D
=3D3D and see how that goes.

There will most likely be vertical application servers as well.

=3D3D20

Tony Lyne

Senior Systems Engineer=3D3D20

Computerland Central=3D3D20

P O Box 1470=3D3D20

PALMERSTON NORTH

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