I also believe 10:1 is stretching it...but I've NEVER known a sales rep to exaggerate ;) I'd _guess_ that a HP DL360 G3 with dual processors and 4 GB of RAM could safely do a 4:1 ratio. My servers get hit pretty hard...40-50 users concurrent with over 60 different published apps. _____ Brian Claus, MCP, Network+, A+ Network Administrator WESCO Distribution, Inc. 225 West Station Square Drive, Suite 700 Pittsburgh, PA 15219-1122 Phone: 412-454-2412 Fax: 412-454-2540 <mailto:bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> bclaus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ryan Lambert Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:48 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX I was reading the product specs, and like you said... it looks like he'd be able to get like 6-10:1 if the utilization was pretty low... in theory. Then again, I don't have any real world experience with managing the product, so I am sure the "YMMV" rule applies here. From what he said, seems like these servers are getting pegged as it is... I'd think 10:1 was stretching it a bit. VMWare is something we've considered for our future plans... so I am definitely interested in this topic... -----Original Message----- From: Steve Greenberg [mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:40 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare ESX 2-4 Virtual servers on one hardware box is my real world experience with Citrix. Could be 6-10 servers if you are consolidating servers with very low utlization....as always it depends on what apps you are running. Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:25 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] VMWare ESX Hello, we are looking at VMWare ESX. I just got out of a meeting with them and I was just wondering what any of you can tell me from your experience to expect as a general rule of consolidation with Citrix boxes. Right know we have 6 duals, with 2 gb of RAM, and are getting about 30 users per box. If we were to go with ESX, how many servers should we plan on consolidating to? Have any of you guys done something like this recently? We were told in the meeting that we could go anywhere in the vicinity of 6:1 to even 10:1. That seems a bit much to me, do any of you have any good VMWare consolidation stories for me? Thanks in advance, /jL