[THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

  • From: "Steve Greenberg" <steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:29:21 -0700

 

I saw it with a new PS 4.5 farm in which clients had old ICA clients, I
think some were 7.x

 

They were hitting remote farms previously and we built this new 4.5 farm for
them. When they hit WI to the new farm, the ICA client launched looking red
and white like the old version and then turned gray and blue like V 10, I
thought it was kind of cool :-)

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Evan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

The .exe and .msi installers for screwdrivers will search out ICA and RDP
clients for you, I've never seen a way to specify it manually.  So, as long
as you run a screwdrivers installer AFTER installing v10 you should be OK.
The 1 catch is trying to re-install the same version of ScrewDrivers over
itself using the same exact client version with the MSI, it doesn't work
because it won't kick off the search for ICA/RDP client feature.  Only the
EXE will do this on a re-install over itself

 

What version of PS are you using that you see the client window changes?
I've been testing against PS4 R02.

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:25 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

What if you started fresh, installed the v10 ICA client, will ScrewDrivers
let you specify the ICA directory??

 

PS- that is freaky that the ICA window version changes and changes backwards
to what I have seen!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Evan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:42 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

With both version installed, I actually noticed the initial ICA client
window was new (connection established, negotiating abilities), then it went
to the old logo.  The ICA client in the tray is slightly different (more
faded) so that must be the new version.

 

I then uninstalled the old client, and lookie here, .ICA files are no longer
associated with the new client.  JOY.

 

Re-ran the v10 web client install and chose repair.  .ICA files are
associated again.  Launch an app and the same change of the ICA window, new
logo that changes to old.  Must be the way the client is coded?  Haven't
tested a clean computer with v10 (no previous ICA clients
installed/uninstalled)

 

Wihile I was testing, I tested ScrewDrivers v4 Client since I use that.
Using MSI file since this can be pushed to users via GPO.

 

That installs drops sdica6.dll into the ICA clients installed folder.  So it
was in the v9 client folder, but after I installed v10, it was obviously not
in there.  So does that mean ScrewDrivers isn't working with a v10 install
that was upgraded from v9 without a re-install of ScrewDrivers?  YUP,  that
is most certainly the case.  Wow, that stinks.  Have to re-install
ScrewDrivers so it can search out the new path to v10.  This is getting
lame.

 

More ScrewDriver fun.  If you install ScrewDrivers with v9, then upgrade to
v10, and try to re-run the same version of ScrewDrivers client, a
modify/repair will not cause a re-search for new ICA clients.  You need to
remove, the re-install.  Or, install a newer version of ScrewDrivers client
(if one exists at that time).  I wonder if there is a command line flag to
trigger a search in ScrewDrivers in MSI?    The .exe version (WISE install
package) does not have the repair/modify option, so you can reinstall the
exe all day long of the same version and it will keep overwriting the files
and re-searching.  Ok, so that's a workaround, but far from ideal.

 

So, what did I learn?

1) The Citrix v10 web client won't uninstall the v9 client

2) If you uninstall v9 after v10 is installed, ICA won't work, need to
reinstall v10

3) Citrix changed the install path, which means 3rd party printing that
relies on that path now breaks (ScrewDrivers v4 in this case) and will need
to be reinstalled 

 

Ok, so how to avoid all this?  How about get the v10 client to install to
the old path. Ran msiexec /a ica32web.msi for the v10 web client.  Nope, no
place to choose installation path there.  Ok, so what about hacking up the
MSI with Orca or such?  That's a lot of work, if it's even a viable option.

 

Hmm, fun.

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:59 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

I don't know, but I have seen the same thing. What was even weirder is that
the intial ICA client launch windows looks like the old version and then
turns into the new v10 look!

 

I am assuming we should be un-installing the old client and then installing
V10..

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Evan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:53 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

I have been installing v10 web client on a few computers that have v9.x web
clients installed using the ica32t.exe straight from Citrix.  I pulled down
ica32web.msi off the Citrix site for v10 and installed it.  

Add/Remove programs shows "Metaframe Presentation Server Web Client for
Win32" (v9.x) and "Citrix Presentation Server Client" (v10) listed.

C:\Program Files\Citrix has \icaweb32 (v9.x) and \ICA Client (v10).  

ICA connections via WI are launched with v10 client.  

Is there a reason the v9.x web clients are not  being uninstalled?  Is this
same behavious observed with PN and Pnagent installs?

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