[THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

  • From: "Malcolm Bruton" <malcolm.bruton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:41:43 -0400

I believe it installs into the user profile.  Somewhere that all users
have write access too.

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: 23 March 2007 16:13
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

That would be a nifty trick, because Users have no write access
(read//execute only) to \program files, and v10 installs to \program
files\ica client.


Power Users can write to \program files though (modify access)

 

But with that in mind, the \icaweb32 under \program files\citrix from v9
inherits from it's parent, so a Power Users would be able to write into
that folder and modify files. 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mark Schill
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

The reason that the version 10 install does not uninstall version 9 is
because version 10 will install with non-admin rights so to get around
that it installs it in a location that a user will be able to write to.


Mark



 

On 3/22/07, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

Maybe we should define old vs. new logo?  What I am seeing first is the
CITRIX logo (black letters, 2 red dots, light gray gradiated type
background(  Then it changes to the only other logo I ever saw with v9
clients that says Citrix MetaFrame 

 

This is with web client.  Behavior is seen with a clean install of v10,
as well as a v9 install where v10 was installed afterwards. Farm servers
are PS4.0 R02 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig
ThinHelp.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:08 AM 


To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9? 




 

Is this possibly a caching problem with the client? In other words for
some reason it is using the cache from the old client? Just a thought.

 

I'll tell you what, when I tried installing 10 over 9 nothing worked.  I
ended up unistalling everything, deleting the citrix folder from add
remove programs, going to registry and deleting the Citrix Key, and
clearing my IE cache and reinstalling and finally got it to work.  

 

Jim



 

On 3/21/07, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: 

Well, what Evan is describing is the ICA Client logo for v10, then at
some point during logon it switches to the server displaying it's logo.
Since it's not PS4.5 , the logo will look older. 

 

Joe

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:25 PM 


To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9? 

 

What if you started fresh, installed the v10 ICA client, will
ScrewDrivers let you specify the ICA directory??

 

PS- that is freaky that the ICA window version changes and changes
backwards to what I have seen!

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/> 

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:42 PM 
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

With both version installed, I actually noticed the initial ICA client
window was new (connection established, negotiating abilities), then it
went to the old logo.  The ICA client in the tray is slightly different
(more faded) so that must be the new version. 

 

I then uninstalled the old client, and lookie here, .ICA files are no
longer associated with the new client.  JOY.

 

Re-ran the v10 web client install and chose repair.  .ICA files are
associated again.  Launch an app and the same change of the ICA window,
new logo that changes to old.  Must be the way the client is coded?
Haven't tested a clean computer with v10 (no previous ICA clients
installed/uninstalled) 

 

Wihile I was testing, I tested ScrewDrivers v4 Client since I use that.
Using MSI file since this can be pushed to users via GPO.

 

That installs drops sdica6.dll into the ICA clients installed folder.
So it was in the v9 client folder, but after I installed v10, it was
obviously not in there.  So does that mean ScrewDrivers isn't working
with a v10 install that was upgraded from v9 without a re-install of
ScrewDrivers?  YUP,  that is most certainly the case.  Wow, that stinks.
Have to re-install ScrewDrivers so it can search out the new path to
v10.  This is getting lame. 

 

More ScrewDriver fun.  If you install ScrewDrivers with v9, then upgrade
to v10, and try to re-run the same version of ScrewDrivers client, a
modify/repair will not cause a re-search for new ICA clients.  You need
to remove, the re-install.  Or, install a newer version of ScrewDrivers
client (if one exists at that time).  I wonder if there is a command
line flag to trigger a search in ScrewDrivers in MSI?    The .exe
version (WISE install package) does not have the repair/modify option,
so you can reinstall the exe all day long of the same version and it
will keep overwriting the files and re-searching.  Ok, so that's a
workaround, but far from ideal. 

 

So, what did I learn?

1) The Citrix v10 web client won't uninstall the v9 client

2) If you uninstall v9 after v10 is installed, ICA won't work, need to
reinstall v10

3) Citrix changed the install path, which means 3rd party printing that
relies on that path now breaks (ScrewDrivers v4 in this case) and will
need to be reinstalled 

 

Ok, so how to avoid all this?  How about get the v10 client to install
to the old path. Ran msiexec /a ica32web.msi for the v10 web client.
Nope, no place to choose installation path there.  Ok, so what about
hacking up the MSI with Orca or such?  That's a lot of work, if it's
even a viable option. 

 

Hmm, fun.

 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:59 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9? 

I don't know, but I have seen the same thing. What was even weirder is
that the intial ICA client launch windows looks like the old version and
then turns into the new v10 look! 

 

I am assuming we should be un-installing the old client and then
installing V10......

 

Steve Greenberg

Thin Client Computing

34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

Scottsdale, AZ 85262

(602) 432-8649

www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/> 

steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

 

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:53 PM 
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] V10 client does not uninstall v9?

 

I have been installing v10 web client on a few computers that have v9.x
web clients installed using the ica32t.exe straight from Citrix.  I
pulled down ica32web.msi off the Citrix site for v10 and installed it.  

Add/Remove programs shows "Metaframe Presentation Server Web Client for
Win32" (v9.x) and "Citrix Presentation Server Client" (v10) listed.

C:\Program Files\Citrix has \icaweb32 (v9.x) and \ICA Client (v10).  

ICA connections via WI are launched with v10 client.  

Is there a reason the v9.x web clients are not  being uninstalled?  Is
this same behavious observed with PN and Pnagent installs?




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