[THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

  • From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:50:31 -0400

Maybe we should define old vs. new logo?  What I am seeing first is the
CITRIX logo (black letters, 2 red dots, light gray gradiated type
background(  Then it changes to the only other logo I ever saw with v9
clients that says Citrix MetaFrame 
 
This is with web client.  Behavior is seen with a clean install of v10,
as well as a v9 install where v10 was installed afterwards. Farm servers
are PS4.0 R02 
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:08 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?


Is this possibly a caching problem with the client? In other words for
some reason it is using the cache from the old client? Just a thought.
 
I'll tell you what, when I tried installing 10 over 9 nothing worked.  I
ended up unistalling everything, deleting the citrix folder from add
remove programs, going to registry and deleting the Citrix Key, and
clearing my IE cache and reinstalling and finally got it to work.  
 
Jim


 
On 3/21/07, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

        Well, what Evan is describing is the ICA Client logo for v10,
then at some point during logon it switches to the server displaying
it's logo.  Since it's not PS4.5, the logo will look older. 

         

        Joe

         

        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:25 PM 
        
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9? 

        

        

         

        What if you started fresh, installed the v10 ICA client, will
ScrewDrivers let you specify the ICA directory??

         

        PS- that is freaky that the ICA window version changes and
changes backwards to what I have seen!

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/> 

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

         

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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 6:42 PM 
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9?

         

        With both version installed, I actually noticed the initial ICA
client window was new (connection established, negotiating abilities),
then it went to the old logo.  The ICA client in the tray is slightly
different (more faded) so that must be the new version. 

         

        I then uninstalled the old client, and lookie here, .ICA files
are no longer associated with the new client.  JOY.

         

        Re-ran the v10 web client install and chose repair.  .ICA files
are associated again.  Launch an app and the same change of the ICA
window, new logo that changes to old.  Must be the way the client is
coded?  Haven't tested a clean computer with v10 (no previous ICA
clients installed/uninstalled) 

         

        Wihile I was testing, I tested ScrewDrivers v4 Client since I
use that.  Using MSI file since this can be pushed to users via GPO.

         

        That installs drops sdica6.dll into the ICA clients installed
folder.  So it was in the v9 client folder, but after I installed v10,
it was obviously not in there.  So does that mean ScrewDrivers isn't
working with a v10 install that was upgraded from v9 without a
re-install of ScrewDrivers?  YUP,  that is most certainly the case.
Wow, that stinks.  Have to re-install ScrewDrivers so it can search out
the new path to v10.  This is getting lame. 

         

        More ScrewDriver fun.  If you install ScrewDrivers with v9, then
upgrade to v10, and try to re-run the same version of ScrewDrivers
client, a modify/repair will not cause a re-search for new ICA clients.
You need to remove, the re-install.  Or, install a newer version of
ScrewDrivers client (if one exists at that time).  I wonder if there is
a command line flag to trigger a search in ScrewDrivers in MSI?    The
.exe version (WISE install package) does not have the repair/modify
option, so you can reinstall the exe all day long of the same version
and it will keep overwriting the files and re-searching.  Ok, so that's
a workaround, but far from ideal. 

         

        So, what did I learn?

        1) The Citrix v10 web client won't uninstall the v9 client

        2) If you uninstall v9 after v10 is installed, ICA won't work,
need to reinstall v10

        3) Citrix changed the install path, which means 3rd party
printing that relies on that path now breaks (ScrewDrivers v4 in this
case) and will need to be reinstalled 

         

        Ok, so how to avoid all this?  How about get the v10 client to
install to the old path. Ran msiexec /a ica32web.msi for the v10 web
client.  Nope, no place to choose installation path there.  Ok, so what
about hacking up the MSI with Orca or such?  That's a lot of work, if
it's even a viable option. 

         

        Hmm, fun.

         

         

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        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:59 PM
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] Re: V10 client does not uninstall v9? 

        I don't know, but I have seen the same thing. What was even
weirder is that the intial ICA client launch windows looks like the old
version and then turns into the new v10 look! 

         

        I am assuming we should be un-installing the old client and then
installing V10......

         

        Steve Greenberg

        Thin Client Computing

        34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453

        Scottsdale, AZ 85262

        (602) 432-8649

        www.thinclient.net <http://www.thinclient.net/> 

        steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

         

________________________________

        From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann
        Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:53 PM 
        To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] V10 client does not uninstall v9?

         

        I have been installing v10 web client on a few computers that
have v9.x web clients installed using the ica32t.exe straight from
Citrix.  I pulled down ica32web.msi off the Citrix site for v10 and
installed it.  

        Add/Remove programs shows "Metaframe Presentation Server Web
Client for Win32" (v9.x) and "Citrix Presentation Server Client" (v10)
listed.

        C:\Program Files\Citrix has \icaweb32 (v9.x) and \ICA Client
(v10).  
        
        ICA connections via WI are launched with v10 client.  
        
        Is there a reason the v9.x web clients are not  being
uninstalled?  Is this same behavious observed with PN and Pnagent
installs?




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