I know the document really well. It's printed out and referred to often. Great doc. I thought Q269214 was the hotfix for the ICA Browser issue that SP6 caused, but I'm going off the top of my head and will look it up. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 10:17 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: The slowest Start button on the planet - guaranteed Oooh! Flashbacks! Neil might be remembering Q269214. He reminded me of the famous Rick Dehlinger tuning document where I found it. Mike, that document is the gospel for NT4/MF1.8 configuration. Fish it out of thethin archives. Something in that document will fix your problem. http://thethin.net/citrixse/white/Best_Practices/MFInstallandTuningTips51520 01.pdf Yeah, yeah, the URL will wrap. Raff -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pardee, Michael P. Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:35 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: The slowest Start button on the planet - guaranteed Run keys are all clean. Come on Neil, you're close - think! Haha. Maybe you should have fish for lunch today (on me). I hear it is supposed to be good "brain" food and helps with memory. ;p -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:45 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: The slowest Start button on the planet - guaranteed Something is nagging at me about this - I've seen it on NT4 with Metaframe, but can't recall what it was, or how I got around it - but I definitely remember it happening. I dunno why, but I keep thinking about either a hotfix, or a Citrix registry value (something with a z in it?). Good thinks to check are anything under the run keys either in HKLM or HKCU. Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dogers > Sent: 09 December 2004 12:38 > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: The slowest Start button on the planet - > guaranteed > > My guess would be services running in the background, printer mappings > maybe? > > Michael could always break one of the servers off from the farm so > only he could log in, making it a bit more sane to log with > file/regmon :) (Or get really fancy and specify the PID of the exe you > want to log!) > > Andrew > > On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:51:55 -0000, Mark Cook <mc@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > We have this issue on several Win2k pro machines, so far have not > > managed to identify what causes it !? It is definitely > explorer but > > don't know why, you click the start button and it doesn't work for > > maybe a minute or more - explorer is not running and excessive CPU > > cycles etc. so no major idea's spring to mind ! > > > > Once question, what AV are you running - we have Sophos which we > > suspect may be part of the issue but cannot id anything... > > > > Mark > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pardee, Michael P. [mailto:MPardee@xxxxxxxx] > > Sent: 08 December 2004 17:10 > > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > > Subject: [THIN] The slowest Start button on the planet - guaranteed > > > > Environment - NT4, Metaframe 1.8 (I know, I know). > > > > Around 80 servers. Upon logon, you spend minutes waiting > to be able > > to fully control the Start Button. I believe something is up with > > Explorer, but I haven't been able to find it yet. The ICA > Toolbar is > > also seen on the Desktop, but everything on it works > immediately. So, > > my workaround to figure out what is happening on a server is to add > > the Command Prompt to the ICA Toolbar, click it, and then do > > everything I need to from there. Explorer really seems to > be the only > > thing that is acting this way. > > > > After a few minutes Explorer seems to finally be done doing > whatever > > it is doing and everything is fine the rest of the day for that > > session. I have run AdAware, Hijack This, etc looking for any > > additional clues but came up empty. > > > > How can I find out exactly what Explorer is doing when this is > > happening? I have tried FileMon and am heading for RegMon next. > > Great tools, but not a lot of fun with 50 other users on > the server at > > the same time. > > *********************************************** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. 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