[THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS

  • From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:05:34 -0400

No, I am talking about applying those CALs as TS CALs for non-Win2K
professional machines.  Didn't seem realistic to me either, but I spent
hours on the phone with my MS rep and he said it was legit.  And the
clearinghouse gave me the licenses.

-Paul

> ----------
> From:         Minero Hector B DLVA[SMTP:MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Reply To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent:         Friday, October 04, 2002 11:03 AM
> To:   'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject:      [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> 
> 
> From the page:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/howitworks/terminal/tslicens
> in
> g.asp
> 
> Terminal Services for Windows 2000 Server provides application deployment
> and management for users on a variety of devices through its Application
> Server mode. Each device that initiates a Windows 2000 Terminal Services
> session must be licensed with the following:
> 
> Windows 2000 Professional license or Windows 2000 Terminal Services Client
> Access license. 
> Windows 2000 Server Client Access license or BackOffice family Client
> Access
> license.
> 
> I suppose you're referring to Windows 2000 Prof licenses.
> Your deployment will make sense until you start using that extra 800
> licenses on other PCs.
> __________________________________
> Hector Minero
> NSWCDD Code K55
> Ph:(540)653-8859
> Fax:(540)653-8575
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stansel, Paul [mailto:Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:57 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> 
> 
> 
> My understanding (given to me by my MS rep!) was that however many Win2K
> CALs we had, we had the equivelant in TS CALS.  Ie. if I had 2000 Win2K
> CALs
> and only installed 1200, I had 800 remaining that could be used as TS
> CALs.
> All I did was call the clearinghouse, give them our contract numbers, and
> tell them how many we were going to use as TS CALs.  Worked fine for me.
> 
> -Paul
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Dan Samaan[SMTP:dsamaan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Reply To:   thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent:       Friday, October 04, 2002 10:53 AM
> > To:         thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:    [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > So I just call MS Licensing center and/or purchase Win2k TSCAL upgrades
> > and install them on my Win2k TS Server?  Will this be transparent for
> > the users?
> > 
> > Also, there is no AD.
> > 
> > Daniel J. Samaan=20
> > Senior Network/Security Engineer - CCSE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE
> > dsamaan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Minero Hector B DLVA [mailto:MineroHB@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:51 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > There is no TS Licensing Database in NT TSE.
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Hector Minero
> > NSWCDD Code K55
> > Ph:(540)653-8859
> > Fax:(540)653-8575
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Samaan [mailto:dsamaan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:47 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What do I need to do with my TS Licensing when I want to replace my NTSE
> > Citrix 1.8 server with a Win2k Server as far as the Licensing database
> > is concerned?
> > 
> > I assume I would have to upgrade my NTSE Cal's to Win2k TS Cals as well?
> > 
> > Daniel J. Samaan=3D20
> > Senior Network/Security Engineer - CCSE, CCA, CCNA, MCSE
> > dsamaan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Blackman, John [mailto:John.Blackman@xxxxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:44 AM
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah I agree, the way I understood it you have to be explicitly running
> > W2K
> > Pro in order to use the "built in" TS CAL license.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jensen, Jay [mailto:jjensen@xxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> > Sent: 04 October 2002 15:38
> > To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> > Subject: [THIN] Re: Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > You don't.  If you are connecting with a Windows 95 workstation to a
> > Win2K
> > Server running Citrix / Terminal servers you will need a TS CAL and
> > Win2k
> > license for each connection.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee, David (CITY TREASURY) [mailto:David.Lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:20 AM
> > To: Thin client listserve (E-mail)
> > Subject: [THIN] Terminal Services CALS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Apologies for another licensing question!  We are about to start an
> > expansion of our XPe server farm, and I'm having some fun sorting out MS
> > Terminal Services CALS for the client machines......=3D20
> > 
> > We have about 200 fairly recent spec Dell PCs, which were supplied with
> > Windows 2000 Professional licences, but for various reasons, currently
> > have
> > to run a downgrade installation of Windows 95 (yeuk!).  Now, the Win2K
> > licence for each PC includes a TS CAL, but as the PCs run Win95, how do
> > I
> > convince the licensing server that all is legit? =3D20
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > David Lee
> > 
> > 
> > Network Engineer
> > City Treasury
> > Plymouth City Council
> > Civic Centre
> > PL1 2AA
> > 
> > Tel: (01752) - 307844
> > 
> > 
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