[THIN] Re: TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

Yes, I believe that is the idea. I guess for most businesses the cash
flow and budgeting aspects will be attractive as well as the flexibility
on numbers of licenses paid for.

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Wood
Sent: 09 June 2008 17:04
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

 

Russell, 

 

Ah, I can check, but I expect with such an agreement you are in fact
'subscribing' rather than buying the license?

 

So then you proactively manage how many users are connecting and only
pay that each year?

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Russell Robertson
Sent: 09 June 2008 16:20
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

 

Andrew

 

This wouldn't be an "Enterprise Subscription Agreement" your client has
would it? That's usually a 3 year agreement paid annually.

 

Cheers

 

Russell

Russell Robertson | Virtual Stream | www.virtualstream.co.uk

 

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Wood
Sent: 09 June 2008 15:59
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

 

Russell, 

 

Thats what I thought - but I've had a customer who has had a quote
whereby their IT service provider has charged  per annum for their TSCAL
licenses on their enterprise select agreement with SA. Over a three year
term thats a fair wedge of cash.

 

Now, while I agree with you, I'm having difficulty finding a document
that states that it can be one or the other L

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Russell Robertson
Sent: 09 June 2008 15:01
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

 

Andrew

 

This depends I'm sure  on how you paid for the TSCAL to begin with. With
a Select Agreement or an Open volume license for instance you can buy
with or without SA. And you  pay once for TSCALS and you have perpetual
rights for that version of OS.

 

I always see Microsoft Software  Assurance  as the same as Citrix
Subscription Advantage. With either vendor's SA, this allows you to
upgrade to the latest version at no further cost.

 

Where it differs (historically anyway) is that Citrix tried to offer
upgrades almost every year, making Citrix SA worth it. For Microsoft, if
you bought TSCALS with SA in 2003, you've already lost out as it was 5
years between version updates.

 

How do you pay for your TSCALS?

 

Cheers

 

Russell

Russell Robertson | Virtual Stream | www.virtualstream.co.uk

 

 

 

 

 

From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Andrew Wood
Sent: 09 June 2008 14:44
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] TSCAL License & SA Agreement Question

 

TSCals - if you've an  SA agreement - do you "buy" (i.e.rent) your
TSCALS each and every year  - or do you purchase them once?

 

Tia.

 

Andrew

 

 

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