I think it is a good idea to right size these things. If the free version, or the free version with an add-on, can do it for less $$ then obviously it is a good solution. I think it is a little misguided though when people say that Citrix is overpriced, they clearly have the most advanced functionality available, particularly when you put a complete solution together across the App Delivery/Networking/Virtualization spaces... This is why I think Provision Networks are very smart, they can potentially build a large and lucrative market around what most people need most of the time- brilliant! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85266 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Smith Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:14 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT? The gateway works, we've been using it for a while, on occasional basis. It works quite nicely, in fact, but with basically no granularity; it remains that if you're serving our the same apps to the same people then vanilla TS works fine - for small firms, it's great. For anything more complex, you will probably need an add-on. Ericom provide a freebie (Then you pay if you want load-balancing features). For my money using Provision's...umm...vWorkspace (Recently renamed) is the direction we're going as our 'We don't need Citrix' solution - does everything we need for *waaaaaayyyyyyy* less money than Citrix. From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: 06 February 2009 04:29 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT? And it beats Citrix's CSG by $0.00. Citrix killer? No. There is still value that Citrix adds to Terminal Services above and beyond the stock product. For smaller customers there is AE and for Medium to Enterprise there is XenApp Enterprise and Platinum. For remote access, CSG is included in AE. For larger customers there is the CAG and AGE. Joe From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Greenberg Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:55 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: TS Gateway - OT? It's worth every penny it cost! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85266 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Sorenson Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 7:40 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] TS Gateway - OT? So it's been about a year that the MS TS Gateway has been around. I've seen zero discussion of it on this board, I'm wondering what everyone's opinion is of it and if they have tested or implemented. My architecture group seems to think it's a Citrix killer. I don't. I'm preparing my arguments now and would appreciate a sound off from the list on the subject. Thanks all Tom _____ SUBJECT TO CONTRACT