[THIN] Re: [THIN] VMWare or not ¿?
- From: "Jay Schaefer" <jyschaefer@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:23:04 -0500
no custom settings here either. I'm going to run out of memory before I run
out of processor. Should have gone with 32 GB. :)
Jay
On 4/26/07, Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Have either of you made custom settings directly to the .vmx files or
using advanced settings in the Vi Client?
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*From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
Behalf Of *Jay Schaefer
*Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:34 AM
*To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN]
RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿?
I've got a very similar setup to Chad with Citrix on VMWare. 2 HP
DL385's, 2 Dell 2950's. Perfect for our department apps with only a few
users. Citrix servers are mixed in with other odd application servers and
domain controllers. Everything working great. (KNOCK KNOCK). Only
assigning one virtual processor per Citrix server.
Jay
On 4/25/07, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Dual core, dual proc., 32-bit.
>
>
>
> I would think so.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Evan Mann
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:41 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN]
> Re: VMWare or not ¿?
>
>
>
> Those are dual core Opertons right? Dual proc as well I assume in those
> boxes? Are you doing this all 32bit or any 64bit?
>
>
>
> That should mean my Dell 1955 blades with 2x dual-core Xeon 3.0ghzprocessors
should yield me similar results. I'm going to have to give this
> a try. I
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *Schneider, Chad M
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:18 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re:
> VMWare or not ¿?
>
> HP DL385G1 with 16Gb RAM, dual 72Gb 15K Ultra320 SCSI mirrored boot
> drives; HP HBA; Additional two Gb NIC ports (4 total); back ended by HP
> EVA5000 SAN for LUNS.
>
>
>
> All hardware is on the VMware hardware compatibility list.
>
>
>
> Running ESX 3.0.1
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mark Guzzo
> *Sent:* Tue 4/24/2007 11:32 AM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare
> or not ¿?
>
> Chad,
>
> Can you please list the hardware you are running VI3 on?
>
> Are you adding any custom settings to the vmx file?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On 4/24/07, *Schneider, Chad M* < CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Multiple Citrix VM's, as well as other non-citrix VM's, per ESX box.
>
> We have several ESX servers, and scatter our VM servers across them.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Evan Mann
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:04 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿?
>
> Can you be a little more specific of what you are doing exactly? Such
> as:
>
> 1) 1 Citrix app server VM on 1 ESX box, no other VMs
> 2) 1 citrix app server VM on 1 ESX box, with other non Citrix VM's that
> are low usage
> 3) Multiple Citrix app server VMs in a single ESX box
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M
> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:56 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿?
>
> We have several Citrix servers, PS 4.0 running on VM's (ESX 3.0).
>
> We have used it mainly for things like WI, ZDC, etc., but have several
> running applications as well. WE are currently getting 50-60 users per
> Citrix VM.
>
> What we have saved is rack space, ability to get several formerly
> physical servers, into a single 2U piece of hardware. We are still testing,
> but we also have found a slight savings in heat produced, as well as power
> used.
>
> I like how quickly I can build out a new VM, based on a template, versus
> a full server build. I like the fact that any required reboots are much
> faster. I like the fact I can simply P2V from old unsupported hardware, to
> a VM.
>
> This is not for everyone, not for every situation, but I do plan to
> continue moving more physicals to virtuals in the near future.
>
> Just my $.02.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of David
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:59 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿?
>
> Joe Shonk escribió:
> > It depends, why do you want to use VMware with Citrix? What do you
> > hope to gain?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of David
> > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:11 AM
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] VMWare or not ¿?
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I have been reading and searching information about using Citrix under
>
> > VMware solution, and I couldn't find a clear solution.
> > I have asked to some partners, and one told me that it's a good
> > solution, but other told me NOT, (the worst solution to work with
> > Citrix due to slow performance).
> > So, I would like to know your recommendations about using or not.
> > We must upgrade our servers (including the farm), and we're thinking
> > about to use VMware for all kind of services, (basically, AD, Oracle,
> > CITRIX,...)
> >
> > Thanks for your support.
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> >
> well, we want to gain better performance (as most of partners saiy), not
> only for citrix but all of servers (like print servers, db server, notes
> server, etc...) in order to reduce a lot of machine into one, two, or three.
>
> and taking advantadge of it, integrate citrix as well.
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Have either of you made custom settings directly to the .vmx files or using advanced settings in the Vi Client? ------------------------------ *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jay Schaefer *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:34 AM *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx *Subject:* [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿? I've got a very similar setup to Chad with Citrix on VMWare. 2 HP DL385's, 2 Dell 2950's. Perfect for our department apps with only a few users. Citrix servers are mixed in with other odd application servers and domain controllers. Everything working great. (KNOCK KNOCK). Only assigning one virtual processor per Citrix server. Jay On 4/25/07, Schneider, Chad M <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dual core, dual proc., 32-bit. > > > > I would think so. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Evan Mann > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:41 AM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] > Re: VMWare or not ¿? > > > > Those are dual core Opertons right? Dual proc as well I assume in those > boxes? Are you doing this all 32bit or any 64bit? > > > > That should mean my Dell 1955 blades with 2x dual-core Xeon 3.0ghzprocessors should yield me similar results. I'm going to have to give this > a try. I > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On > Behalf Of *Schneider, Chad M > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:18 AM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* RE: [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: > VMWare or not ¿? > > HP DL385G1 with 16Gb RAM, dual 72Gb 15K Ultra320 SCSI mirrored boot > drives; HP HBA; Additional two Gb NIC ports (4 total); back ended by HP > EVA5000 SAN for LUNS. > > > > All hardware is on the VMware hardware compatibility list. > > > > Running ESX 3.0.1 > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mark Guzzo > *Sent:* Tue 4/24/2007 11:32 AM > *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [THIN] Re: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare > or not ¿? > > Chad, > > Can you please list the hardware you are running VI3 on? > > Are you adding any custom settings to the vmx file? > > > > Thanks > > > > On 4/24/07, *Schneider, Chad M* < CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Multiple Citrix VM's, as well as other non-citrix VM's, per ESX box. > > We have several ESX servers, and scatter our VM servers across them. > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Evan Mann > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:04 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿? > > Can you be a little more specific of what you are doing exactly? Such > as: > > 1) 1 Citrix app server VM on 1 ESX box, no other VMs > 2) 1 citrix app server VM on 1 ESX box, with other non Citrix VM's that > are low usage > 3) Multiple Citrix app server VMs in a single ESX box > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:56 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿? > > We have several Citrix servers, PS 4.0 running on VM's (ESX 3.0). > > We have used it mainly for things like WI, ZDC, etc., but have several > running applications as well. WE are currently getting 50-60 users per > Citrix VM. > > What we have saved is rack space, ability to get several formerly > physical servers, into a single 2U piece of hardware. We are still testing, > but we also have found a slight savings in heat produced, as well as power > used. > > I like how quickly I can build out a new VM, based on a template, versus > a full server build. I like the fact that any required reboots are much > faster. I like the fact I can simply P2V from old unsupported hardware, to > a VM. > > This is not for everyone, not for every situation, but I do plan to > continue moving more physicals to virtuals in the near future. > > Just my $.02. > > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of David > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:59 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: VMWare or not ¿? > > Joe Shonk escribió: > > It depends, why do you want to use VMware with Citrix? What do you > > hope to gain? > > > > Joe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > > Behalf Of David > > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 6:11 AM > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [THIN] VMWare or not ¿? > > > > Hi list, > > > > I have been reading and searching information about using Citrix under > > > VMware solution, and I couldn't find a clear solution. > > I have asked to some partners, and one told me that it's a good > > solution, but other told me NOT, (the worst solution to work with > > Citrix due to slow performance). > > So, I would like to know your recommendations about using or not. > > We must upgrade our servers (including the farm), and we're thinking > > about to use VMware for all kind of services, (basically, AD, Oracle, > > CITRIX,...) > > > > Thanks for your support. > > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > > ************************************************ > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation > > > mode use the below link: > > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > > ************************************************ > > > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > > ************************************************ > > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation > > mode use the below link: > > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > > ************************************************ > > > > > well, we want to gain better performance (as most of partners saiy), not > only for citrix but all of servers (like print servers, db server, notes > server, etc...) in order to reduce a lot of machine into one, two, or three. > > and taking advantadge of it, integrate citrix as well. > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > ************************************************ > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation > mode use the below link: > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > ************************************************ > > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > ************************************************ > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation > mode use the below link: > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > ************************************************ > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > ************************************************ > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > ************************************************ > > SBC SITES ONLY GOOGLE SEARCH: http://www.F1U.com <http://www.f1u.com/> > ************************************************ > For Archives, RSS, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://www.freelists.org/list/thin > ************************************************ > > >
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