[THIN] Re: Suggestions on 3rd party printer software
- From: TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:41:23 -0700
Want to thank everyone for their comments on this issue. Per the KB, I've
implemented the DefaultPrnFlags setting on several of our test systems, and
it's allowing staff to print to their canon printers using their local
machine drivers.
I've had a couple issues specifically with Canon IR 3080 models, with this
setup, where for some reason when a user printed from the Citrix EMF viewer,
the job would 'spool' and then 'delete' immediately, and not print. The same
user would be able to print to those printers from any app on their machine
with no problem, but EMF printing bombed out.
Changing those printers to "print immediately" and skipping spooling has
solved this problem for now.
This setup requires more clicking from our staff, but more clicking vs tens
of thousands for software . . . so far the extra clicks are quite tolerable.
ty again for the feedback gang,
Lan
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Jeremy Saunders <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:
> Refer to CTX114287 which will explain what Joe means. You’ll need to set
> the DefaultPrnFlags value on the XenApp servers.
>
>
>
> I also try to stick with the Citrix Universal Driver where possible. But
> sometimes you limit the users options and printing features, especially with
> the more advanced printers, so I also use the HP UPD, Xerox GPD, Canon UFR
> 2, etc. Sure, people will bag them, but over the last couple of years the
> manufacturers have put in heaps of effort to sort them out. You could argue
> over whether they are TS/Citrix certified or not. But they are written with
> TS/Citrix in mind and work well when implemented correctly. The advantage is
> that they cover most printer models, so you can simply create driver
> mappings for client printers. I don’t have an example of a Canon driver
> mapping. But on my last project I had to deal with heaps of Xerox printers.
> So instead of deploying all the drivers, such as the “FX Document Centre
> 400/350/250 driver”, I just mapped it to the “Xerox Global Print Driver
> PCL”, and it works well. You could do something similar with the Canon UFR
> 2.
>
>
>
> Of course this does not discount solutions like ThinPrint, Screwdrivers,
> Tricerat, etc. They are great. But if you step back and approach the issue
> differently, you can make it easier for on-going maintenance and management,
> whilst giving the users as many features as possible.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *TSguy92 Lan
> *Sent:* Thursday, 2 June 2011 7:09 AM
>
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Suggestions on 3rd party printer software
>
>
>
> You lost me on "CUPS/UPD and forcing the view the pop up on the client."
>
> We're using Xenapp 5.0. If it's possible with our version, please point me
> in the right direction on that and I'll get working on some testing. :)
> *
> "Native drivers are the ones that come installed with the Windows OS.Those
> are certified to work in a TS/RDS/Citrix environment. The Canon drivers you
> use, are they certified or native drivers? Probably not?"*
>
> Apologies for any confusion in my terminology there. The Canon drivers
> we're using (or attempting to use) are "certified" drivers from Canon.
>
> Support has informed us we need a "dias" service setup on the terminal
> servers for the drivers to work properly . . still no go.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Joe Shonk <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> You still use CUPS/UPD and force the view to pop up on the client side.
> Users then can select the “special” feature of the printer then.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, start a bidding war between Thinprint and screwdrivers.
> Tricert will come down in price if you twist their arm hard enough.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> *From:* thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On
> Behalf Of *TSguy92 Lan
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 01, 2011 2:04 PM
> *To:* thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [THIN] Re: Suggestions on 3rd party printer software
>
>
>
> I was running under the universal driver for years as well . .and was quite
> happy.
>
> Then my helpdesk started telling staff to use some "specialized" features
> of our Canon Image Runner printers . . which require native printer drivers
> on the servers to use. I've been in hell ever since.
>
> :(
>
> 3rd party is my option at this point . .already pulled a ton of hair out in
> troubleshooting with native drivers to get the features we need.
>
> thanks,
>
> Lan
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> I set my farms to use the Citrix universal driver only and have been
> fine since.
>
> I don't see what advantages the third party print solutions offer
> anymore considering the price.
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2011, at 2:56 PM, TSguy92 Lan <tsguy92@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hiya listies.
> >
> > Long time thread lurker here.
> >
> > Can anyone suggest other 3rd party printer management solutions for
> Citrix / terminal servers, that have similar features / functions to
> screwdrivers?
> >
> > Personally I like screwdrivers, but management is choking on the price.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > Lan
>
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