[THIN] Re: Starting & killing background tasks

All,

I went off-list to try to help Derek get this app running with some
helper applications that I wrote and I just wanted to give a report back
with the results...and a heads up about this fax software

The application itself (fmstart.exe) that Derek was trying to get
running relies on a file called tiff32.dll (same directory).  The way
that GFI wrote tiff32.dll and fmstart.exe, the user session must be a
full desktop and NOT a published/seamless app because of some of the
dependencies required.

So, when GFI says that it is not Citrix friendly, they aren't
kidding...the moral of the story - if you are in the market for a fax
app, look somewhere else until these folks can get their act together.
Just an FYI...

John Vorchak
Vorchak Software
Custom Windows XP Embedded and
Windows NT Embedded Components and Solutions
jvorchak@xxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Derek J. Lambert
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 14:44
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Starting & killing background tasks

I've been trying for a couple of weeks to get the GFI Faxmaker client to
work correctly on our Win2k/XPfr2 servers. According to the manufacturer
Citrix is not supported, nor is their "enhanced" form supported under
Terminal Services. When I asked their support people about any possible
"fixes" or "hacks", even if unsupported, I got the following response:
 
"I will forward your suggestion to the product manager. Please remember
that
this is not a tailor made application and therefore, we cannot add all
the
features that are requested."
 
I'm sure that comment conjures up all kinds of responses (as it did for
me), but I don't have the time to argue the merits of thin computing
with people who obviously haven't seen the light. I want to get this
working since so far it is the best package I've found considering cost,
management, features and hardware requirements.
 
What I've discovered on the local console when a user (the
administrator) logs on a small program "fmstart.exe" is run from the
HKLM Run key. This somehow is grabbing requests and opening the form/fax
client (which is just small MAPI application interface to Outlook). If I
run this program (fmstart.exe) in my session the fax client starts
functioning as one would expect. Unfortunately when I do this and close
all my applications, fmstart.exe is still running in the background and
my session never closes. I'd like to try and find a way to run this when
a session opens, and then close it when the session shuts down. Is there
somewhere I can define an "ignore" list so that the session doesn't care
about it? If I open task manager I see that wfshell.exe, winlogon.exe,
and csrss.exe are all running. These are all getting ended automatically
- and I'm hoping I can add fmstart.exe to the mechanism that loads
these. I've tried adding fmstart.exe to the HKCU Run key but this must
not get used when running a seamless session. Is there an equivalent
location for seamless sessions?
 
Anyway, if anyone can help or has any ideas please let me know. I've
found a number of similar questions in the archives, but no solutions
and nothing any experimentation. I'm sure if there is a solution to this
it would benefit a number of other applications. Acrobat for one I know
has a process like this it starts up and never ends, leaving a open
empty session.
 
Thanks!!
 
Derek J. Lambert, MCSE, MCP+I, CCA, A+
MIS Manager
Columbia ParCar Corp.
 

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