[THIN] Re: Starting it all over

IBM HS20s, Model is 8832-21X, 8832-L1X and 8832-M1X, not a lot of
difference between them except processor speed.  These come with dual
ATA drives on board, but if you want to use an HBA you lose one of the
drives.
IBM just came out with new blades that have dual SCSI drives on board as
well as an HBA, I'll have a new BladeCenter in the next month or so and
will be able to let folks know how they are running.

George
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 7:57 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Starting it all over

I like that.  Sounds very efficient.  Might make a good place for the IE
cache too.  What kind of blades are you using?

Greg


On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 15:29:01 -0700, Taylor, George <gtaylor@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> We have Blades that come with 1 ATA drive and an HBA.  We boot from 
> the SAN, but keep the swap file on the local drive.  We figured that 
> being a single drive (the HBA takes the place of the second drive) we 
> didn't want any data or OS stuff on it.  The swap file works great 
> there and we also use it for just temporary storage space for us.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bernd Harzog [mailto:berndh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:26 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Starting it all over
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I have a question (which I admit is rooted in my not knowing much 
> about SAN's). If you boot a server off of a SAN, where does that 
> server's page file reside? If it is on the SAN, then what is the 
> access speed of SAN storage relative to leading edge IDE and SCSI 
> access? The reason for the question was that I had a talk recently 
> with an architect of Microsoft's internal TS farm, and he was very 
> against booting servers off of the SAN, since SAN speeds were far 
> below those of local hard disks in the server (he was actually looking

> a using solid state hard drives for the page files).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Bernd Harzog
> CEO
> Applications Performance Management Experts www.apmexperts.com 
> bernd.harzog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:   thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
> Behalf Of Ron Oglesby
> Sent:   Friday, November 19, 2004 11:42 AM
> To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject:        [THIN] Re: Starting it all over
> 
> Greg you can hit me offline, but in addition to some of that I would 
> look at throwing some Vmware in there from the start.
> 
> Ron Oglesby
> Senior Technical Architect
> Microsoft MVP, Windows Server
> 
> RapidApp, Chicago
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Reese [mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:54 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Starting it all over
> 
> If you had to throw out your entire server setup and start over, would

> you do differently a second time around.
> 
> We have undergone recent changes here and I pretty much get to do that

> after the first of the year.  Exchange, SQL, Firewall, Citrix, Windows

> servers, the whole entire datacenter - gone.  It all has to be redone 
> from scratch and it has to be done with an eye on future growth.
> 
> I was thinking of moving it all to blades that boot from a SAN.  It's 
> all standalone servers now.
> 
> I'm just curious what the rest of you have run into that you wish you 
> could do differently if given the chance.
> 
> Greg
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