[THIN] Re: Starting it all over

We have Blades that come with 1 ATA drive and an HBA.  We boot from the
SAN, but keep the swap file on the local drive.  We figured that being a
single drive (the HBA takes the place of the second drive) we didn't
want any data or OS stuff on it.  The swap file works great there and we
also use it for just temporary storage space for us. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernd Harzog [mailto:berndh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:26 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Starting it all over

Guys,

I have a question (which I admit is rooted in my not knowing much about
SAN's). If you boot a server off of a SAN, where does that server's page
file reside? If it is on the SAN, then what is the access speed of SAN
storage relative to leading edge IDE and SCSI access? The reason for the
question was that I had a talk recently with an architect of Microsoft's
internal TS farm, and he was very against booting servers off of the
SAN, since SAN speeds were far below those of local hard disks in the
server (he was actually looking a using solid state hard drives for the
page files).

Thanks,

Bernd Harzog
CEO
Applications Performance Management Experts www.apmexperts.com
bernd.harzog@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 -----Original Message-----
From:   thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]  On
Behalf Of Ron Oglesby
Sent:   Friday, November 19, 2004 11:42 AM
To:     thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:        [THIN] Re: Starting it all over

Greg you can hit me offline, but in addition to some of that I would
look at throwing some Vmware in there from the start.

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server

RapidApp, Chicago
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:54 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Starting it all over

If you had to throw out your entire server setup and start over, would
you do differently a second time around.

We have undergone recent changes here and I pretty much get to do that
after the first of the year.  Exchange, SQL, Firewall, Citrix, Windows
servers, the whole entire datacenter - gone.  It all has to be redone
from scratch and it has to be done with an eye on future growth.

I was thinking of moving it all to blades that boot from a SAN.  It's
all standalone servers now.

I'm just curious what the rest of you have run into that you wish you
could do differently if given the chance.

Greg
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