[THIN] Re: Speaking of VM...

  • From: "Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:56:00 -0700 (PDT)

Absolutely! The difference is that Workstation is running on top of the full 
windows OS which requires all sorts of services, system resources and 
bottlenecks, while ESX server is an actual stripped down linux OS that is the 
VMware kernel to load the VM's on.  Basically you eliminate all the overhead 
thus allowing more system resources for the VM's.
  JK

Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@> wrote:
                Does ESX blow away the other VMWare versions in performance? 
I?ve installed VMWare Workstation just to test it and it?s slower than 
molasses. Of course I don?t have any training and haven?t wrenched on it a 
whole lot, but the VMs truly are slow, especially if I try to get more than two 
running. I have it running on newer server hardware. :/
   
  Thanks,
    Roger Riggins   
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Lutheran Services in Iowa 
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  -----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Joe Shonk
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:19 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...
   
  I'm surprised no one has mentioned Virtuozzo...  VMWare is great, but if 
majority of the stuff is W2k3 and/or linux,  why virtualize the hardware when 
you only need to virtualize the OS.

Joe
    On 6/22/06, Selinger, Stephen <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  I couldn't agree more. It is truly amazing how many server run at 5% all
day every day. If you are refreshing a bunch of servers the ROI on
VMWARE ESX Server is an easy sell.   Let me know if you need more
details as I could go on and on...:) 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Evan Mann 
Sent: June 21, 2006 8:48 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...

I'd go with 2 dual-core processors as well.  To be honest, when I think 
server, I don't even think single CPU these days, it doesn't even pop
into my head.  Dual-core is just a bonus on top of it all.

With that in mind, I have a lot of servers that are largely wasted with
two single-core 2.8-3.2ghz Xeon processors.. But, that's why we are
going into into server consolidation with VMWare, it solves the wasted
hardware problem for most (not all) wasted resources.

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:04 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go...

Assume everything.  We're looking at a technology refresh and we tend to 
choose one standard model to purchase for the bulk of our servers.

adam





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It really depends on what the role of the server is going to be? I am
assuming a Citrix server? 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: June 21, 2006 3:09 PM
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Subject: [THIN] Which way to go...

All,

If you were buying new server, would you go a dual CPU setup or a single 
dual-core?  Why?  I am specing out our new server platform.  I've read
all sorts of benchmarks and such, but they all tend to pit a dual core
vs a single CPU.  Not quite a fair matchup.

adam

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