Absolutely! The difference is that Workstation is running on top of the full windows OS which requires all sorts of services, system resources and bottlenecks, while ESX server is an actual stripped down linux OS that is the VMware kernel to load the VM's on. Basically you eliminate all the overhead thus allowing more system resources for the VM's. JK Roger Riggins <roger.riggins@> wrote: Does ESX blow away the other VMWare versions in performance? I?ve installed VMWare Workstation just to test it and it?s slower than molasses. Of course I don?t have any training and haven?t wrenched on it a whole lot, but the VMs truly are slow, especially if I try to get more than two running. I have it running on newer server hardware. :/ Thanks, Roger Riggins Network Administrator Lutheran Services in Iowa w: 319.859.3543 c: 319.290.5687 http://www.lsiowa.org -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Shonk Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:19 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go... I'm surprised no one has mentioned Virtuozzo... VMWare is great, but if majority of the stuff is W2k3 and/or linux, why virtualize the hardware when you only need to virtualize the OS. Joe On 6/22/06, Selinger, Stephen <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I couldn't agree more. It is truly amazing how many server run at 5% all day every day. If you are refreshing a bunch of servers the ROI on VMWARE ESX Server is an easy sell. Let me know if you need more details as I could go on and on...:) -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Mann Sent: June 21, 2006 8:48 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] RE: [THIN] Re: Which way to go... I'd go with 2 dual-core processors as well. To be honest, when I think server, I don't even think single CPU these days, it doesn't even pop into my head. Dual-core is just a bonus on top of it all. With that in mind, I have a lot of servers that are largely wasted with two single-core 2.8-3.2ghz Xeon processors.. But, that's why we are going into into server consolidation with VMWare, it solves the wasted hardware problem for most (not all) wasted resources. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:04 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Which way to go... Assume everything. We're looking at a technology refresh and we tend to choose one standard model to purchase for the bulk of our servers. adam "Selinger, Stephen" < SSelinger@xxxxxx To .ca> <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: cc thin-bounce@freel ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: Which way to go... 06/21/2006 03:22 PM Please respond to thin@xxxxxxxxxxxx g It really depends on what the role of the server is going to be? I am assuming a Citrix server? -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: June 21, 2006 3:09 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Which way to go... All, If you were buying new server, would you go a dual CPU setup or a single dual-core? Why? I am specing out our new server platform. I've read all sorts of benchmarks and such, but they all tend to pit a dual core vs a single CPU. 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