[THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
- From: Angus Macdonald <Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 13:20:55 +0100
Thanks for that. We've got a huge variety of printers so getting rid of
drivers could be difficult but it may come to that.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Saunders [mailto:jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 September 2006 13:11
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
I think this might be a printer driver issue. A customer of mine was
getting exactly the same problem on a Windows 2003 SP1 server with PS4. I
was convinced it was a printer driver issue, even though was unable to
prove it. So we rebuilt it using the UPD plus a couple of basic HP LJ
drivers for mappings. No other drivers were installed. So far so good. I
know that this is PS4 with a different printing mechanism, but I couldn't
help but notice the similarities with your issue.
Cheers.
Kind regards,
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I spoke too soon! One has just gone down again.
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 28 September 2006 10:53
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
New datastore is in and appears to have calmed things down. Now, is
there a way to move my printer name mappings from the old farm?
Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald
[mailto:Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 September 2006 22:07
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
I've actually still got a PS4 server in the farm but it's on
the point of hardware death and about to be replaced with a PS3
equivalent. It has to be powered down daily.
First thing in the morning I'm building a new farm / datastore
and migrating the servers across to it. I don't suppose it's
possible to migrate farms without upsetting the sessions
already running on each server is it. I know, I want the moon
on a stick etc etc.
Thanks for the pointers gents.
Angus
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wood [mailto:andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 September 2006 17:57
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
Ah, I understand what you're saying there - top tip.
But, my (badly phrased) point was that if you upgrade
your DS (to PS4) you can't go to a situation (like Angus
appears to have) where you have *no* PS4 boxes at all.
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff
Pitsch
Sent: 26 September 2006 17:36
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
I'm not sure what your saying there.
Your DS will be automatically upgraded once a PS4 box is
introduced to the farm. Outside of doing a restore to
the DS, there is no way of downgrading the DS if you
remove the server.
If your going to run a mixed version environment, it is
best practice to have a zone for each version. So if
your farm is PS3 and PS4 (assuming PS3 is NOT running
SP1), then you'd have a zone for PS3 and a zone for PS4.
A zone REQUIRES a ZDC so if you have a PS4 zone, you have
a PS4 ZDC for that zone. There are too many issues with
mixing a single zone with multiple versions. this comes
from cold, hard experience.
Jeff Pitsch
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On 9/26/06, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
So - ok to upgrade your DS to PS4, but not have at
least 1 ZDCs/Connection server on PS4?
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pitsch
Sent: 26 September 2006 17:08
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
Always keep the versions in their own zones. That
eliminates the problems.
Jeff Pitsch
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On 9/26/06, Andrew Wood <andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
wrote:
It's a different structure isn't it?
I know for instance that there is a schema change in
R02 for CPS4 which can
cause problems if the servers aren't updated
correctly. Should always have
your Dcs on the latest service pack revision - but
this won't be the case
in the new farm.
And your obviously getting some timeout issues.
For example, in a migration at least your Dcs, data
connection servers and
metric servers should be PS4 first - if you've gone
PS3 for everything
that's probably not going to be pretty.
:(
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Angus Macdonald
Sent: 26 September 2006 16:46
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
I didn't recreate the datastore when I downgraded or
when I later rebuilt
from fresh. I thought the datastore would remain
compatible. I may create a
new farm on a new datastore and move the servers into
it tomorrow. The
difficulty is that we are in healthcare and need the
farm 25/8.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wood [mailto:
andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 26 September 2006 16:39
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
Indeed - or did you re-create the datastore, but use
the old .dsn?
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Landin, Mark
Sent: 26 September 2006 15:48
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
What's your datastore?
Did you recreate your datastore when you downgraded
from PS4 to PS3? What
was your procedure? Perhaps there was a misstep that
could explain what's
happening...
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Angus
Macdonald
Sent: Tue 9/26/2006 8:53 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
I've just run DSCHECK and I' getting
"Can't read package info from data store"
"Can't read package info from data store"
"Can't read package info from data store"
I've tried dscheck/full on apps, servers and printers
but the warnings
remain. related?
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Wood [mailto:
andrew.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ]
Sent: 26 September 2006 11:18
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Servers gradually grind to a halt
Using qwinsta I was seeing a couple of down sessions,
then a number of
sessions hit conn and move no further. At that point
the server is accepting
load, but unable to process it.
Mind, I think mine is related to session logons coming
in too fast. I also
had a problem with a logon script attempting to map to
a drive that didn't
actually exist - this was for all users and no help at
all to the logon
process.
What happens if you *don't* put on the hotfixes?
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