Blade servers are great for Citrix and they use IDE drives on some. IBM model. ____________________________ Steve Perez IT Department Sea Star Line, LLC sperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Rink, Jesse" <JRink@whitnall To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> .com> cc: Sent by: Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations thin-bounce@fre elists.org 01/15/2003 10:36 AM Please respond to thin One other thing. What does everything think about the speed of the SCSI drive in their = Citrix box? 10k rpm vs. 15k rpm speed? I'm leaning towards 15k, but is = 10k sufficient? It saves a bit of money. Jesse Rink Network Engineer Whitnall School District 414-525-8461 =20 -----Original Message----- From: SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:56 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations Jesse, I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell server in Citrix environments. = I have found that dell is the cheapest of the three. I think it is = overkill with the x345 the x330 would be sufficent. I recommend Dell 1650 = servers with 2 18gb drives so that the page file is seperate and you program = files seperate with Dual processors and 1 gb ram, 1 server will easily server = 30 users. Good Luck, ____________________________ Steve Perez IT Department Sea Star Line, LLC sperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx = =20 "Rink, Jesse" = =20 <JRink@whitnall To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> = =20 .com> cc: = =20 Sent by: Subject: [THIN] Server = recommendations =20 thin-bounce@fre = =20 elists.org = =20 = =20 = =20 01/14/2003 = =20 11:47 AM = =20 Please respond = =20 to thin = =20 = =20 = =20 Looking for some feedback here. I worked a lot with load balanced farms and NFuse in the past with Winframe and Metaframe 1.8, but I haven't = used Citrix/TS in about 2 years so I'm kinda rusty. XP wasn't even available when I was managing my Citrix servers so I'm clueless when it comes to = XP. That being said, be nice to me, haha. I'm currently considering updating one of our computer labs (in the high school) which has older PII machines. The original thought was to buy brand new PCs but I'm starting to reconsider and thinking about going Citrix (or maybe just terminal services) and re-using the old PCs. The older PII machines should be enough to work as thin clients. The PCs = are mainly used to surf the internet (IE), Office XP (mainly Word, = Publisher, Power Point), a speech program, and a CAD program. I was tentatively looking at using Citrix XP with load balancing for the lab. (2) IBM x345 servers with dual 2GHz processors, 1GB memory, and a single 36GB drive. I've always been under the theory that when you use Citrix load balancing, it's more cost effective to NOT stock your = servers with redundant power supplies, redundant drives, redundant NICs, etc. = since the redundancy is taken care of via load balancing instead of at the = server level. This keeps my cost of hardware cheaper, which saves me money to afford the load balancing piece for Citrix or software assurance, etc. My question is whether or not the proposed server setup listed above = would be adequate for this lab. All 30 PCs would be used at the same time, so = I could POSSIBLY have 30 users using internet explorer at the same time so = I need my servers capable of handling this load. I was originally = thinking having (2) IBM x345 servers with a single processor, but I'm leaning towards dual processors. I'm looking for feedback from people on = whether my server config would be adequate or whether I need more = servers/hardware. If memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't, I thought a dual processor PIII Xeon processor server with a lot of memory could easily handle 25 users. If that's true, then my configuration with two servers would be overkill. Thoughts? Thanks. 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