[THIN] Re: Server recommendations
- From: Angus Macdonald <Angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 09:17:53 -0000
I agree. Most of our existing farm is comprised of Compaq DL360 units and
every single one has had a fault of some sort. several have had three or
more faults. My Dell 1550 and 1650 machines have been flawless and are much
cheaper.
-----Original Message-----
From: SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 January 2003 22:56
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server recommendations
Jesse,
I have worked with IBM, Compaq, and Dell server in Citrix environments. I
have found that dell is the cheapest of the three. I think it is overkill
with the x345 the x330 would be sufficent. I recommend Dell 1650 servers
with 2 18gb drives so that the page file is seperate and you program files
seperate with Dual processors and 1 gb ram, 1 server will easily server 30
users.
Good Luck,
____________________________
Steve Perez
IT Department
Sea Star Line, LLC
sperez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Rink, Jesse"
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Please respond
to thin
Looking for some feedback here. I worked a lot with load balanced farms
and NFuse in the past with Winframe and Metaframe 1.8, but I haven't used
Citrix/TS in about 2 years so I'm kinda rusty. XP wasn't even available
when I was managing my Citrix servers so I'm clueless when it comes to XP.
That being said, be nice to me, haha.
I'm currently considering updating one of our computer labs (in the high
school) which has older PII machines. The original thought was to buy
brand new PCs but I'm starting to reconsider and thinking about going
Citrix (or maybe just terminal services) and re-using the old PCs. The
older PII machines should be enough to work as thin clients. The PCs are
mainly used to surf the internet (IE), Office XP (mainly Word, Publisher,
Power Point), a speech program, and a CAD program.
I was tentatively looking at using Citrix XP with load balancing for the
lab. (2) IBM x345 servers with dual 2GHz processors, 1GB memory, and a
single 36GB drive. I've always been under the theory that when you use
Citrix load balancing, it's more cost effective to NOT stock your servers
with redundant power supplies, redundant drives, redundant NICs, etc. since
the redundancy is taken care of via load balancing instead of at the server
level. This keeps my cost of hardware cheaper, which saves me money to
afford the load balancing piece for Citrix or software assurance, etc.
My question is whether or not the proposed server setup listed above would
be adequate for this lab. All 30 PCs would be used at the same time, so I
could POSSIBLY have 30 users using internet explorer at the same time so I
need my servers capable of handling this load. I was originally thinking
having (2) IBM x345 servers with a single processor, but I'm leaning
towards dual processors. I'm looking for feedback from people on whether
my server config would be adequate or whether I need more servers/hardware.
If memory serves me correctly, and it probably doesn't, I thought a dual
processor PIII Xeon processor server with a lot of memory could easily
handle 25 users. If that's true, then my configuration with two servers
would be overkill.
Thoughts? Thanks.
Jesse Rink
Network Engineer
Whitnall School District
414-525-8461
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