[THIN] Re: Server capabilities
- From: "Mack, Rick" <RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:10:04 +1000
Hi Evan,
With 2003 and some sort of CPU throttling (eg Threadmaster, Allssense,
Armtech etc) the limitting factor on the machines will be memory. For 40+
users, you'd be comfortable with about 2.5-3 GB if you're running apps like
the 6.2 SAP GUI as well. Pure Office and you could get away with 2 GB.
Either that or add a product like Tscale to prune down the per-user memory
footprint so you can get more users with less memory.
Regards,
Rick
Ulrich Mack
rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Volante Systems
18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
Queensland Australia
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-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2003 1:21 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server capabilities
Ok, then the next key question, is that number limited more by CPU speed or
memory? Reason I ask is, I can easily add more memory, but I wouldn't bump
up the CPUs. So if I have CPU headroom but not memory, I'd add memory for
more headroom.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ron Oglesby
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:18 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server capabilities
Ok Office XP users with IE and all Published desktop. If they are power
users I would probably keep the boxes in the 30-35 or so range.
If they have e-mail and keep that open with maybe IE or one other app. You
could run into the 40's pretty easy. The real number is probably between the
two.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:07 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server capabilities
Lets assume office XP suite and IE, no other apps. I can base my other apps
off of the numbners for an office suite+IE published desktop environment.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Ron Oglesby
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:58 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Server capabilities
Yeah right..... It all depends on the apps. And even with the apps it will
be easier to do on 2k3,
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Mann [mailto:emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:18 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Server capabilities
We're putting together a proposal to purchase Citrix since our TS
environment isn't going away anytime soon. I have a few questions that will
reflect the proposal.
1) We use Win2000 TS in a Win2003 AD enviroment. Licensing costs for
Win2003 TS are substancial compared to sticking with Win2000 TS. Considering
we would put MF XP and the newest FR ontop of our current servers, are there
any advantages gained by spending the costs to upgrade to Win2003 TS and
revamp our licensing?
2) I have 5 terminal servers now but plan to consolidated down to my 2
newest servers which are Dell PE2650s with Dual P4 Xenon 1.8ghz and 2 gigs
of RAM. I'd say I have a total of 50 users combined in my 4 terminal
servers on any given basis. Of that 50, maybe 10% do a full desktop type
environment. We actually have an app we found that locks the desktop and
gives you only icons that is specified within the app. So this 10% of users
has outlook, word, excel, and IE. The other 90% of the users use 1 or 2
applications that are launched through their profile. They are fairly low
CPU and memory useage apps.
Based on those 2 PE2650s, if I decided I wanted to publish full desktops,
how many users could I support across each server without a problem?
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