[THIN] Re: Remote access and developers

I like the idea of blade pcs but I don't like the price.

Michael Pardee
Http://blindsquirrel.org

On May 30, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Nick Smith <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

If you don't want to virtualise, then you could stick in Blade PCs and use logmein - simple and easy solution but no hardware saving

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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Pardee
Sent: 30 May 2008 02:34
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Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote access and developers

Agreed Steve.  Long term I believe this will be the solution.  We are
going to start playing with the beta of XenDesktop tomorrow.  I am
going to see how VMWare ESX works out hosting the image(s).    Since
bringing in the IBM x3850 M2's with 16 cores and 80GB of RAM we are
seeing some incredible performance virtualized now.  If nothing else,
we'll be able to do a proof of concept/pilot this way.

On May 29, 2008, at 5:56 PM, Steve Greenberg wrote:


This why often remote dev sessions are given dedicated machines with
RDP access. Now that XEN Desktop is out you can offer this by direct
ICA.....


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Joe Shonk" <joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:23:24
To:<thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Remote access and developers


Dreamweaver and Photoshop can be made to work in Citrix, but
installing them is the biggest pain in the butt.

Visual Studio works as well.

The question with these apps is they use a lot of CPU and memory.

Joe



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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Michael Pardee
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 11:16 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Remote access and developers

Apologies if this is a duplicate.  I had an issue with my email
account earlier.


How is everyone handling remote access for their developers?  Citrix
has served us really well for the past 10 years and we will add our
10,000th concurrent user this year, but we have never been able to
get the developers to play nicely in the Citrix world.  They all
want (need?) their own desktops and have always been able to justify
elevated permissions.  I would love to get them in Citrix, but for
some apps that may be forcing a square peg in a round hole.  We are
getting ready to do some testing with a couple VDI solutions, but it
is way too early to tell if that will work for them and I don't
think we can bring up an environment fast enough to support hundreds
of remote developers.

There is always the tried and true vpn solution, but since
implementing wi/csg years ago we have been eliminating vpn for
client use and normally just use it for network to network
connectivity these days.

Here is a subset of some of the applications we have yet to host via
Citrix today, but some of this may be because we never tried.

Dreamweaver
Photoshop
SeeBeyond
Visual Studio .Net
Toad

Thanks in advance everyone.



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