I'll give you two reasons, one that everyone knows, and one that is not as well known. The well known one is that if you have any software that leaks memory on the server, if you do not reboot that software will eventually grow in memory consumption until it uses all of the virtual memory in the machine and then will cause the machine to hang. The not so well known one is that when a user enters and then exits an application, not all of the resources that the applications consumed while running are released upon exist. This is true for every Win32 application running on every NT class OS. In other words if you load an application and then exit it, there will be less memory available after you exit it then their was before you loaded the application. Cheers, Bernd Harzog CEO RTO Software 678-455-5506 x701 bernd@xxxxxxxxxxx www.rtosoft.com -----Original Message----- From: Tony Lyne [mailto:Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:00 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Rebooting Win2k Terminal servers Guys, =20 I need some pointers here for information. =20 Were in the middle of a project for a potential client and are starting to see a political mess coming up with their preferred vendor (clone servers). =20 The servers that they have sold the client doesn't support warm reboots. You have to physically turn these machines off to reboot them. (don't ask why!!!!) Not to mention these servers are way overspec'ed for the role of a term server. =20 I stated that we need to have these machines able to reboot quickly as part of a maintenance plan of cycled reboots. Nothing new here!! =20 I do have some information/white papers from citrix stating this is best practice. But have nothing from M$ or anyone else as I can see the client and vendor starting to ask for reasons why. =20 I know the reasons for this, but I need ammo to present to the client from Citrix/M$ and anyone else. =20 Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. =20 Thanks, Tony Lyne Senior Systems Engineer=20 Computerland Central=20 P O Box 1470=20 PALMERSTON NORTH Telephone (+64) 06 3537300 Facsimile (+64) 06 3566800 Mobile (+64) 0274 720696 E-mail Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Internet http://www.computerland.co.nz <http://www.computerland.co.nz/>=20 CAUTION: This e-mail message and accompanying data may contain information that is confidential and subject to privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message or data is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me immediately and delete all material pertaining to this e-mail. Thank you. =20 =20 ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - Emergent Online 99Point9.com Designed to facilitate efficient resolution of your technical server-based questions, issues and incidents, technical support is a few mouse-clicks away: you submit your incident-specific support requests via our online support helpdesk, our certified engineers resolve them while you monitor the progress, and your systems get back to 99.9% up-time in no time. http://www.99point9.com=20 ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or=20 set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor - Emergent Online 99Point9.com Designed to facilitate efficient resolution of your technical server-based questions, issues and incidents, technical support is a few mouse-clicks away: you submit your incident-specific support requests via our online support helpdesk, our certified engineers resolve them while you monitor the progress, and your systems get back to 99.9% up-time in no time. http://www.99point9.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm