[THIN] Re: Rebooting Win2k Terminal servers
- From: "Braebaum, Neil" <Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:43:16 +0100
My reason for asking, being some of our high-end / Datacenter / partionable
machines require some tweaking with the bespoke software for some reboot
actions - I just wondered whether it was a similar situation.
Neil
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Lyne [mailto:Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 11 June 2003 21:49
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Rebooting Win2k Terminal servers
>
> Yeah this goes into the area of the appropriateness of this
> server for = the job.
>
> This specific vendor speced up a clone white box with a fully
> populated = quad Xeon mainboard 2GB memory and a high end
> Raid configuration. = Redundant PSU's x3 and all sorts of
> goodies. They were telling the = client to run their entire
> terminal server setup from one server.
>
> Technically it's a very nice server but way over speced (its
> more suited = to a SQL or GIS server) for the job and the
> client would have been = better off buying something like a
> couple of HP DL360G3's etc.
>
> Anyway, to the reboot thing. The vendor has told the client
> that you = cannot and shouldnot warm reboot servers. Get
> this... You cant even do = the normal 'start/restart' option
> on this box. It will hang on the post = test. This sounds
> like a cop out excuse trying to cover up that they = have
> buggy firmware on the mainboard.
>
> Ive never heard until now of a server that couldn't warm reboot.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 June 2003 8:49 p.m.
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Rebooting Win2k Terminal servers
>
> Just out of curiosity - what sort of servers don't allow warm reboots?
>
> I know you said don't ask, but I'm burdened with curiosity ;-)
>
> Neil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Lyne [mailto:Tony.Lyne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
> > Sent: 11 June 2003 06:00
> > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [THIN] Rebooting Win2k Terminal servers
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> > Guys,
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> > I need some pointers here for information.
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> > Were in the middle of a project for a potential client and=20 are
> >starting to see a political mess coming up with their=20 preferred
> >vendor (clone servers). =20
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> > The servers that they have sold the client doesn't support=20
> > warm reboots. You have to physically turn these machines off=20
> > to reboot them. (don't ask why!!!!) Not to mention these=20
> > servers are way overspec'ed for the role of a term server.
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> > I stated that we need to have these machines able to reboot=20
> > quickly as part of a maintenance plan of cycled reboots.=20
> > Nothing new here!!
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> > I do have some information/white papers from citrix stating=20
> > this is best practice. But have nothing from M$ or anyone=20
> > else as I can see the client and vendor starting to ask for=20
> > reasons why.
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> > I know the reasons for this, but I need ammo to present to=20
> > the client from Citrix/M$ and anyone else.
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> > Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
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