Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication i was about to post very same...... "bring on the one and only Mr bernd Hartzog" but i will say that tscale does do what it claims for us......... John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney T +61 2 9296 3653 F +61 2 9296 3999 john.rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Angus Macdonald Sent: Monday, 15 March 2004 11:21 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: RTO's Tscale vs Aurema's ARMTech shootout A Mr Herzog will be long shortly to put the case for TScale. -----Original Message----- From: Erik Blom [mailto:erik.blom@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 15 March 2004 12:13 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] RTO's Tscale vs Aurema's ARMTech shootout Hi, I have a client with 50 users and 2 Metaframe XPa servers on windows =3D 2000 standard SP4. Both servers have 4 GB RAM which is for 75% (3 GB) =3D consumed in the afternoon of a typical day. This client wants to optimize his memory usage so that when one servers would die, the other one would be able to sustain the load. I am in the process of evaluating RTOsoft's Tscale and Aurema's Armtech. At this =3D point I looked at Armtech which I think only gives me the possibility to put quota on users CPU and memory usage. What I am looking for really is something that does pure out-of-the-box tuning so that my server =3D consumes less memory (be it virtual or real memory) without putting quota on =3D users server usage. Questions: 1. is this possible? (ie. pure application optimization without the need to enforce quota) 2. can this be done by one of these two products? If not, is there a product that I don't yet know about? Thanks a lot for your answers, Erik Blom system engineer ******************************************************** This weeks sponsor Emergent Online. 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